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          OKAY. EVERY BRIEFING WILL BE COVERED. OKAY EVERYONE, WE ARE THEORETICALLY STARTING AT 1230. 
          WE BOUNCED THAT TO 1245. WE'RE GOING TO COMPROMISE AT 1243. AND THE CITY MANAGER TELLS ME 
          [1. Update from GRFD on Medical Priority and Wellness Response Program in Partnership with Corewell Health]
EVERYONE GETS TEN MINUTES. SO, CHIEF. ALL RIGHT, WELL, LET'S GET STARTED. AS YOU CAN SEE TODAY WE HAVE A LOT OF GUESTS WITH US, NOT ONLY FROM THE COMMUNITY BUT COREWELL HEALTH. 
          AND WE ARE VERY EXCITED FOR TODAY'S PRESENTATION. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT OUR EMS PROGRAM TODAY, EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES, IN THE VITAL ROLE THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT PLAYS IN EMS IN THIS COMMUNITY. AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE PICTURES, WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS A REALLY, REALLY LONG TIME. AND I DO WANT TO GIVE CREDIT. I SEE CHIEF WINSTROM IN THE BACK FROM 1969 TO 1989, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS THE PRIMARY FIRST RESPONDER IN THE CITY AND ALSO DID A FANTASTIC JOB. SO A LOT OF INTERESTING PICTURES THAT SHOWS GRPD HAS GENERALLY HELD PATIENT CARE IN HIGH REGARD TYPE OF CALLS. WE RESPOND TO. I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO SAY, CHIEF, I CAN'T SEE THOSE BOXES ARE TOO SMALL. THE WORDS ARE CUT OFF, I GET IT, IT'S SIMPLY A VISUAL. ABOUT 17,000 EMS CALLS A YEAR WITHIN THE CITY OF GRAND RAPIDS PROPER. 
          NOW, WITHIN THAT DATA, I WANT TO POINT OUT A FEW NUGGETS THAT I THINK YOU'LL FIND INTERESTING. 
          ALMOST 14% OF THOSE INCIDENTS INVOLVE REPEAT 911 CALLERS. SO THIS IS SOMEONE THAT IS CALLING 911. FREQUENTLY THROUGHOUT THAT YEAR WE EVEN HAD TEN OR MORE INCIDENTS FOR 32 PEOPLE. SO WE HAD PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE HAD ONE PERSON THAT ENGAGED 911 THE EMS SYSTEM, 114 TIMES. SO 114 TIMES. WE SENT A BIG RED TRUCK, AN AMBULANCE SHOWED UP, AND SOMETIMES THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. OBVIOUSLY, THE FIRST 113 TIMES WE DIDN'T FIX WHAT THEIR PROBLEM WAS. SO THAT THAT SHOULD RESONATE WITH YOU. I DO WANT TO WALK YOU BRIEFLY THROUGH BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN A LOT. THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS. SO I WANT YOU TO READ MY LIPS ON THIS ONE. 
          THE HOT TEAM IS NOT GOING AWAY. THIS IS NOT THE HOT TEAM. SO I WANT TO SHOW THE ORG CHART UP HERE YOU CAN SEE OUR BATTALION CHIEF OF EMS, MARK FANKHAUSER WHO'S WITH ME TODAY. WE HAVE OUR CAPTAIN OF THE HOT TEAM, ERIC RYDER, WHO HAS A LIEUTENANT AND NETWORK 180 CLINICIANS UNDER THEM. WE RETOOLED THAT THIS PAST SUMMER. IT'S GOING VERY WELL. HAD SOME GREAT FEEDBACK ON THE HOT TEAM AND THE WORK THEY'RE DOING. YOU'RE GOING TO NOTICE A NEW BOX HERE WITH ACTING CAPTAIN MATT HUTTER AND A COREWELL COMMUNITY HEALTH WORKER. SO THAT IS A NEW PROGRAM THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO ADDRESS. THESE FREQUENT 911 CALLERS. LET ME BACK UP REAL QUICK. I DO SEE THE EMPOWER ON THERE. I WANT TO GIVE FULL CREDIT TO LUCAS LEVERETTE, ONE OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS. WE DID NOT COME UP WITH THIS NAME. MY MY CREATIVITY BROUGHT US TO MEDICAL OUTREACH TEAM AND THAT NAME WAS ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE. 
          AND EVERYONE KEPT GETTING CONFUSED WITH HOMELESS OUTREACH TEAM. SO REACHED OUT TO LUCAS WHO DOES MARKETING. THANK YOU LUCAS AND SAID, HEY, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS ON THIS? AND OF COURSE, IT'S A PLAY ON WORDS, MEDICAL PRIORITY AND WELLNESS RESPONSE EMPOWER. WE WANT TO EMPOWER OUR RESIDENTS TO GET THE RIGHT CARE, AND WE'RE GOING TO WALK ALONGSIDE OF THEM. SO THIS IS NOT NEW. NATIONAL SURVEY IN 2023 REPORTED THAT THERE ARE OVER 400 PROGRAMS LIKE THIS IN OVER 40 STATES. HOWEVER, ONLY 4% OF THOSE PROGRAMS ARE AT THE BASIC LIFE SUPPORT LEVEL. THAT'S WHAT GRAND RAPIDS FIRE OPERATES, AS IS EMTS. WE'RE BASIC LIFE SUPPORT, SO THIS IS VERY RARE. THE OTHER QUITE RARE THING IS THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS PARTNERING WITH A HOSPITAL. NORMALLY, THESE ARE ALS TYPE AGENCIES THAT START A PROGRAM IN-HOUSE. IT'S A HOSPITAL THAT STARTS THEIR OWN PROGRAM OR A FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT STARTS THEIR OWN PROGRAM. WE DID NOT HAVE THE EXPERTISE AND BREADTH OF RESOURCES TO DO THIS BY OURSELVES, AND CORWELL AGREED TO PARTNER WITH US ON THIS. WE ARE SO VERY THANKFUL. SO THE TOP THREE SERVICES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING, MUCH LIKE THE REST OF THE COUNTRY, IS HIGH EMERGENCY ROOM OR 911 USAGE. CAN WE GET THAT DOWN? CAN WE GET PEOPLE THE RIGHT TYPE OF CARE RATHER THAN ALWAYS SENDING THE BIG FIRE TRUCK READMISSION PREVENTION? WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO GO BACK TO THE E.R. WE'D RATHER HAVE THEM TAKEN CARE OF AT HOME, IF POSSIBLE. 
          WE'RE GOING TO BE FOCUSED IN ON THAT. AND FINALLY, CARE MANAGEMENT COORDINATION. SOME PEOPLE HAVE CHRONIC MEDICAL CONDITIONS THAT SIMPLY ARE JUST DIFFICULT TO DEAL WITH. IT TAKES A LOT OF RESOURCES, A LOT OF NAVIGATION, A LOT OF EXPERTISE. THINK BACK TO YOUR 
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SPOUSE OR YOUR PARENTS, AND WHEN THEY HAVE ISSUES, AND HOW DIFFICULT IT CAN BE TO GET TO THE RIGHT DOCTOR TO TO FIND THE RIGHT SPECIALIST, TO GET THE RIGHT MEDICATION FIGURED OUT. 
          NOW, LUCKILY, IF YOU HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER THAT CAN HELP YOU, THAT'S NORMALLY WHAT HAPPENS. 
          MANY TIMES WE GO ON PATIENTS THAT LIVE BY THEMSELVES AND DO NOT HAVE THAT RESOURCE. WELL, WE'RE LOOKING TO BE THAT RESOURCE. THE NEW CAR, NEW TO US CAR. IT WAS A RECYCLED BATTALION CHIEF CAR. IT'S PARKED OUT ON CALDER PLAZA. IT IT LOOKS GOOD OUT THERE. WE GOT IT ALL LETTERED UP. IT'S READY TO GO AND WE'RE READY TO START WORKING IN THE COMMUNITY. AND THIS IS A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP FOR SURE. SO THE STAFFING CAPTAIN HUTTER FROM JFRD, HE'S A CAPTAIN OF EMS. NOW, IN ADDITION TO THE MEDICAL KNOWLEDGE, WE WERE JUST TALKING WITH CALDWELL IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM. THE FIRE DEPARTMENT BRINGS WITH IT A HIGH DEGREE OF TRUST FOR MOST AGENCY PARTNERS. PEOPLE LET US IN THEIR HOMES AT THEIR MOST VULNERABLE TIMES, AND WE RESPECT THAT TRUST. WE HONOR IT, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO BE A RESOURCE FOR THEM. SO MATT, IS THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND FIRE DEPARTMENT. LET US COME INTO YOUR HOME AND SEE IF WE CAN HELP YOU OUT. COREWELL IS PROVIDING EXPERTISE IN NAVIGATING A LOT OF DIFFERENT WRAPAROUND SERVICES. WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT EXPERTISE. SO THEY ARE LOOKING AT SOCIAL DETERMINANTS OF HEALTH. HOW CAN WE SCHEDULE, HOW CAN WE GET TRANSPORTATION? HOW CAN WE GET ACCESS TO FOOD? HOW CAN WE GET ACCESS TO MEDICATION. AND I THINK TOGETHER, WHAT WE'VE CREATED IS A PRETTY DYNAMIC DUO TO RUN THIS PILOT PROGRAM. NOW THE NEXT STEPS I'M GOING TO HAVE KAYLEE FROM CALDWELL COME ON UP AND I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH THE NEXT STEPS ON THIS PROCESS. 
          AND THEN CERTAINLY WE WANT TO HEAR FROM OUR PARTNER. WE'RE GOING TO FINALIZE CROSS TRAINING. WE ARE SPENDING TIME IN THE ER. THEY ARE SPENDING TIME ON THE FIRE TRUCK. WE ARE GOING TO BE SENDING OUR TEAM OUT TO CONDUCT A SITE VISIT, HOPEFULLY SOMEPLACE WARM. I TOLD THEM THIS TIME OF YEAR TO FIND A MOBILE INTEGRATED HEALTH PROGRAM SOMEWHERE IN THE COUNTRY THAT IS DOING REALLY WELL. WE WANT TO SPEND A COUPLE DAYS SHADOWING THEM. WE WANT TO. 
          WE ALREADY HAVE A LIST OF PARTICIPANTS THAT WOULD BE RIPE FOR THIS PROGRAM. SO WE'RE GOING TO NARROW THAT DOWN IN EARLY IN JANUARY. WE ARE GOING TO START CONDUCTING SITE VISITS. 
          THAT RED CAR PARKED OUT ON CALDER PLAZA IS GOING TO START GOING OUT TO HOMES AND APARTMENTS, CONDOS, WHAT HAVE YOU IN THE CITY OF GRAND RAPIDS MAKING CONTACT AND ENROLLING PEOPLE IN THIS PROGRAM. OF COURSE, WE'RE GOING TO TRACK DATA AND METRICS. THIS IS A SIX MONTH PILOT. WE'RE GOING TO SEE HOW IT GOES. IF IT GOES, HOW I THINK IT'S GOING TO GO, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THIS THING KEEP KEEP GOING IN THE FUTURE. AND THEN OF COURSE, WE'D LIKE TO COME BACK AFTER THAT PILOT PROGRAM AND REPORT BACK ON ANY SUCCESSES OR CHALLENGES THAT WE FACED. WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO CALDWELL. HELLO. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS KAYLEE PETERSON, AND I SERVE AS SENIOR DIRECTOR FOR HEALTHIER COMMUNITIES HERE AT COREWELL HEALTH WEST MICHIGAN. I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT WE'RE REALLY THRILLED ABOUT THIS. YOU KNOW, WE TALK A LOT ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS TO SERVE IN COMMUNITY, AND THIS REALLY IS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT. WE KNOW THAT WE CANNOT DO OR BE ALL TO ALL, AND WE REALLY NEED THESE PARTNERSHIPS AND HAVE BEEN SO THRILLED WITH JUST HOW COLLABORATIVE THIS HAS BEEN. TRULY DEDICATED AROUND A SHARED WHY AND HAVE EVERY CONFIDENCE THIS REALLY WILL BE A SUCCESS. TO THE COMMENTS MADE ALREADY, WE'RE REALLY GOING TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT WE LEARN AS WE FIRST LAUNCH. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO REALLY KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR COMMUNITY IS EXPERIENCING, AND WE'RE GOING TO PIVOT ACCORDINGLY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE REALLY ADDRESSING THESE ROOT CAUSES. 
          SO I JUST WANT TO ALSO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO MY TEAM HERE, TO THE COREWELL HEALTH COLLEAGUES THAT JOINED ME TODAY, WILL MOYER OR EXCUSE ME, WILL LEE, MOYER, MICKEY AND WILL, THIS IS VERY MUCH A TEAM EFFORT AND A COLLABORATIVE. WITHOUT THAT SHARED EFFORT, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE TODAY. SO JUST VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE TIME OF THE PARTNERSHIP AND EXCITED TO SEE WHAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH TOGETHER. THANKS. AND I'LL JUST LEAD OFF. THANKS, CHIEF. THANKS FOR IDENTIFYING AN AREA WHERE WE CAN CLEARLY IMPROVE. THIS IS OBVIOUSLY I MEAN, EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM PROBABLY KNOWS THIS IS COMPLETELY COMPATIBLE WITH LOTS OF OTHER ANALYSIS AND LOTS OF OTHER MOVEMENT IN THE HOUSING SPACE AND ALL KINDS OF GREAT WORK THAT'S BEING DONE IN THE COMMUNITY AND GETTING THOSE FREQUENT FLIERS. LET'S INTO INTO GETTING BETTER, HAVING THEIR NEEDS MET BETTER IS OBVIOUSLY A HUGE OPPORTUNITY HERE. MY MY SON HAD SOMEBODY ON HIS BLOCK. HE LIVES IN HAMILTON, ONTARIO. SO THIS IS NOT ABOUT YOU GUYS. BUT YOU KNOW THE AMBULANCE SHOWED UP AND HE'S LIKE, OH YEAH, TONY CALLS AN AMBULANCE EVERY DAY AROUND 3:00. 
          SO YEAH, WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE THOSE HIGH, HIGH USE FOLKS OUT THERE. AND THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE 
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NOT ENJOYING IT. RIGHT. THEY'RE NOT ENJOYING HOW HOW BROKEN THEIR RELATIONSHIP IS WITH SERVICES. SO I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO BETTER. ANY COLLEAGUE COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER BROWN OR COMMITTEE MEMBER THANK YOU. REAL QUICK. JUST SLIDE NUMBER THREE. I SEE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE IT SAID IT WENT FROM 5000 TO 17,000. YES. AND THEN I LOVE THIS BREAKDOWN. 
          DO WE HAVE AND I AND WE MAY NOT HAVE. BUT JUST CURIOUS IF WE HAD THE BREAKDOWN BACK IN 20. 
          EXCUSE ME 1990 VERSUS 24. YOU'RE LUCKY I FOUND THE NUMBER 5000 FROM 1990. SO NO, I DO NOT HAVE THE SPECIFIC BREAKDOWN. I COULD GO BACK ABOUT TEN YEARS WITH A WITH A GOOD BREAKDOWN TO SEE IF THERE WERE ANY TRENDS THAT CROPPED UP WITH TYPES OF CALLS. BUT I CAN, YOU KNOW, MARK, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO POP UP AND AND ADD SOME INSIGHT ON THAT, BUT TYPICALLY BREATHING PROBLEMS, DECREASED LOC, CHEST PAIN, FALLS. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE TYPICALLY SEE. YES, IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT TO PULL THAT DATA. I COULD I CAN ATTEMPT TO IT, BUT IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT. BUT TYPICALLY YES, BREATHING PROBLEMS, CHEST PAINS WOULD BE THAT THE TYPICAL MONIKER AS TO WHAT WOULD BE DIAGNOSED AT THAT TIME FROM A DISPATCH NOTE. 
          GREAT. YEAH, NO NEED TO GO BACK. JUST WAS CURIOUS IF WE HAD IT. ALL RIGHT. IF IF WE COULD GO BACK 35 YEARS, THAT'D BE GREAT. BUT LOOKING AT LOOKING AT THE PROGRAM, CAN YOU ACTUALLY TELL US WHAT CITIES ALSO MODELED A SIMILAR PROGRAM? AND THEN WHAT ARE THE ANTICIPATED COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS. YEAH. SO SO THERE ARE NONE IN MICHIGAN WITH A FIRE DEPARTMENT DOING THIS. WE ARE WE ARE GOING TO BE THE FIRST. I'VE BEEN POINTING OUT ALBUQUERQUE, NEW MEXICO TO A LOT OF PEOPLE AND I REFERENCED THEM. THEY'RE AN ACCREDITED FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          THEY ALSO RUN A THIRD SERVICE. IT'S POLICE FIRE, AND THEN THEY HAVE A THIRD DEPARTMENT THAT'S DOING A LOT OF HOMELESS OUTREACH. EMPOWER MENTAL HEALTH CO-RESPONSE TYPE WORK. WE'RE SIMPLY DOING THAT WITH POLICE AND FIRE HERE WITHOUT THAT THIRD DEPARTMENT. AND TO ME, THIS REALLY DOES ROUND OUT THE TRIFECTA OF SOME GAPS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED BETWEEN POLICE AND FIRE. SO IT'S WE'RE ALIGNING WITH THOSE BEST PRACTICES. ANY LARGE FIRE DEPARTMENT LIKELY HAS SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN PLACE. AND THE ANTICIPATED COST, THE COST IS WE REALLOCATED AN EMS CAPTAIN AND AN OLD VEHICLE. SO WE DID NOT ADD STAFFING. WE REALLOCATED A THIRD MEMBER OF THE HOT TEAM OVER TO START THIS PROGRAM. NOW, COREWELL DID BURDENSOME COST. YES. YEAH. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY WE ARE INVESTING IN OUR PERSONNEL JUST BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THIS IS A COMMUNITY NEED AND WE'RE COMMITTED TO IT. GREAT. ALL RIGHT. WELL THANKS. KEEPING WITH MY WE'RE THREE MINUTES OVER OUR TEN MINUTE BUDGET. SO THANK YOU. IT WAS WORTH IT THOUGH. IT WAS. THANK YOU. THIS IS THIS IS GREAT. IT'S EXCITING. 
          AND THANKS FOR POINTING OUT FOR ALL THE LISTENERS AT HOME HOT. IT'S NOT GOING AWAY. IT'S NOT GOING AWAY. YEP. OKAY. SORRY I DON'T HAVE MY AGENDA IN FRONT OF ME. WHAT'S MY EMERGENCY 
          [2. Office of Emergency Management Update]
MANAGEMENT? EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. AND I'M STARTING THE CLOCK NOW. WE GOT A CLOCK. 
          AND OUR NEW HEAD OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IS COMING UP, MR. RANCE. WELCOME. GLAD YOU'RE HERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I'LL CUT MINE SHORT BY THREE MINUTES, SO DON'T WORRY. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE RUNNING OVER, SO WE'RE OKAY. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO EVERYBODY. AS YOU MENTIONED, I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF SERVING AS YOUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ADMINISTRATOR. I STARTED IN AUGUST, SO I BELIEVE THIS IS MY FIRST TIME IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION. SO THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO BE HERE THIS AFTERNOON. YEAH. GO AHEAD. 
          OKAY. GOOD CALL. THANK YOU. SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MYSELF AND THEN WHAT WE'VE DONE FOR WINTER PREPAREDNESS SO FAR. IT IS KIND OF WEIRD SAYING WINTER PREPAREDNESS, LOOKING OUTSIDE AND KNOWING THE WEATHER WE'VE HAD THE PAST MONTH. SO I AM WELL AWARE OF THAT. SO THIS IS WINTER PREPAREDNESS SLASH CURRENT OPERATIONS THAT WE'RE DOING. SO DEFINITELY WELL AWARE THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ABOUT MYSELF, I'M FROM WEST MICHIGAN, BORN AND RAISED IN GRAND HAVEN, SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA, SERVED AS A PEACE CORPS VOLUNTEER IN HONDURAS. THAT HELPED ME DO TWO THINGS ONE, LEARN SPANISH, WHICH IS GREAT, AND THEN ALSO KIND OF REALLY SOLIDIFY DEDICATION TO ALTRUISM AND PUBLIC SERVICE. EVERYBODY WHO IS HERE IN THIS ROOM, EVERYBODY WHO HAS MADE THIS MEETING HAPPEN, OUR DEDICATED CITY STAFF, WE KIND OF DEMONSTRATE THIS EVERY DAY. AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT REALLY DRIVES US ALL TO PROVIDE THE BEST SERVICES THAT WE CAN TO OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR VISITORS THAT COME HERE TO GRAND RAPIDS. SO PRIOR TO THIS JOB, I WORKED FOR FEMA AS A COMMUNITY RESILIENCE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM MANAGER. AND THEN BOTH OF THOSE EXPERIENCES KIND OF REALLY HELPED ME KIND OF SOLIDIFY MY VISION TOWARDS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, WHICH IS REALLY BUILDING COMMUNITY RESILIENCE THROUGH COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND EDUCATION. SO KIND OF FOCUSING ON OUR WINTER PREPAREDNESS JUST A LITTLE BIT INTO THE OUTLOOK, AS WE'RE ALL WELL AWARE. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE MOST, I WOULD SAY, 
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IMPACTFUL EVENTS THAT WE HAVE GOING INTO THE WINTER SEASON ARE IS OUR LAKE EFFECT SNOW AND HAZARDOUS ROAD CONDITIONS. I THINK ANYBODY WHO'S DRIVEN IN WEST MICHIGAN WOULD BE WELL AWARE OF THIS. SO JUST CONTINUING TO MONITOR SOME OF THESE CHANGING CONDITIONS AND WHAT OUR FORECAST LOOKS LIKE FOR THIS NEXT WINTER. SPEAKING OF THE FORECAST, WE DO HAVE REALLY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR FRIENDS OVER AT THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE, AND THEY PROVIDE US WITH THIS FORECAST. SO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT TEMPERATURE AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE'RE PROBABLY ABOUT EQUAL CHANCES OF BEING SLIGHTLY WARMER OR SLIGHTLY COLDER. I HAVE TO SAY. SO FAR WE'VE BEEN SLIGHTLY COLDER ESPECIALLY WE'VE HAD TWO CODE BLUES THAT HAVE BEEN ISSUED SO FAR, INCLUDING THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS RECENT WEEKEND. SO JUST ENSURING THAT WE'RE ALWAYS WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE NEEDS ARE THAT THEY HAVE AND ENSURING THAT OUR UNSHELTERED POPULATION IS TAKEN CARE OF WHEN WE HAVE THOSE, THOSE CONDITIONS. SO UP TO THIS POINT, IT'S PROBABLY BEEN A LITTLE BIT COLDER THAN NORMAL. AND THEN IF WE LOOK AT PRECIPITATION, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE ARE PROJECTED TO HAVE AN ABOVE AVERAGE PRECIPITATION THIS YEAR. OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN SEE LOOKING AT OUTSIDE THAT WE ARE MEETING THAT EXPECTATION. ALL OF THIS LEADS TO OUR SNOWFALL FORECAST. AGAIN NOT A SPECIFIC EXACT NUMBER, ALTHOUGH I KEEP ASKING THEM TO PROVIDE ME WITH ONE AND THEY TELL ME THEY CAN'T. SO FOR THE AREA WE'RE GOING TO HAVE NEAR NORMAL SNOWFALL. REALLY NO SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO OUR OPERATIONS. I THINK, YOU KNOW, DOING THIS OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, WE'VE HAD A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUR STRATEGY DOWN, GET OUR OPERATIONS READY FOR ALL THIS PREPAREDNESS FOR FOR WINTER. AND WE'RE RIGHT WHERE WE NEED TO BE. AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? WE'VE COORDINATED WITH A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT CITY DEPARTMENTS. 
          THEY'RE NOT ALL LISTED ON HERE, BUT JUST THE ONES THAT I HAVE UPDATES FOR ARE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THOSE A LITTLE BIT. AND THIS IS REALLY A CITYWIDE OPERATION. YOU CAN TELL WE HAVE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, INCLUDING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH CHIEF BROWN AND OUR OPERATIONS TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE FULLY STAFFED, READY TO RESPOND TO ANY CALLS, EVEN THINGS YOU MIGHT NOT THINK OF AS TRADITIONAL FIRE DEPARTMENT ACTIVITIES. YOU CAN SEE THE PICTURE RIGHT THERE, YOU KNOW, ENSURING THAT OUR FIRE HYDRANTS AND OUR, YOU KNOW, CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE ARE PREPARED AND READY IN THE EVENT THAT WE DO NEED THEM. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN VERY COMMUNICATIVE AND OPEN TO WORKING WITH US. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE READY TO RESPOND TO ANY TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS THAT WE HAVE. 
          I THINK THIS WAS THE CASE IN POINT TWO WEEKS AGO WHEN WE HAD, YOU KNOW, THE SEMI TIP OVER ON 131 SOUTH, VERY QUICK RESPONSE, VERY COMPLEX INCIDENT. BUT WE SHOWED THAT WE WERE ABLE TO HANDLE IT IN TERMS OF OUR OUR WATER. YOU KNOW, WE MAINTAIN THE HYDRANTS, WE PUMP THEM DOWN. 
          WE HAVE FULLY STAFFED DEPARTMENT AT THE WATER DEPARTMENT. AND THEN FOR OUR LAKE MICHIGAN FILTRATION PLANT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OUR BACKUP GENERATORS ON SITE READY TO GO. 
          NO SIGNIFICANT IMPACT OPERATIONS AT THAT LOCATION. PUBLIC WORKS I KNOW I'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH JOHN GORNEY. THEY HAVE TRAINED UP THEIR STAFF, WORKING IN TWO DIFFERENT SHIFTS, KIND OF A DAY AND A NIGHT OPERATIONS. THEY HAVE ENOUGH TRAINING. ALL OF THEIR EQUIPMENT IS READY. YOU CAN SEE 35 PLOW AND SALT TRUCKS, 14 PICKUP PLOW TRUCKS, AND THEN THEY EVEN HAVE TWO SIDEWALK PLOWS THAT THEY'RE USING. I HOPE TO SEE EVERYBODY LATER TODAY AT THE SCRIBNER RIBBON CUTTING, WHICH IS GOING TO BE REALLY GREAT, REALLY GREAT FACILITY OUT THERE. EVERYBODY HAS BEEN MOVED INTO THOSE OFFICES. THEY HAVE THE NEW SALT DOME, WHICH IS FULLY FUNCTIONAL RIGHT NOW. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE COLLABORATION AGREEMENTS BOTH WITH KENT COUNTY, THE MICHIGAN DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND WITH THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE. SO REALLY WELL PREPARED. YOU KNOW, SPEAKING OF THE CODE BLUE THAT WE MENTIONED EARLIER AND THE DROPPING TEMPERATURES, REALLY FOCUSING ON WHAT SERVICES WE CAN PROVIDE TO OUR UNSHELTERED POPULATION. HERE'S AN UPDATED SCHEDULE OF THE WARMING CENTERS THAT WE HAVE IN GRAND RAPIDS, ENSURING THAT IF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT NEEDS TO SUPPORT ANY OF THESE OR ANY OF THESE OPERATIONS, THAT WE'RE HERE TO DO SO. BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TEAM FOR CONTINUING TO PUSH THOSE AND NOT ONLY RUN AND PROVIDE THOSE WARMING CENTERS, BUT PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS YOU KNOW, WHAT IS OPEN AND WHEN. ALSO, WE WORK WITH OUR. YES, SIR. YEAH. JUST A JUST A REALLY SPITBALL QUESTION. I AM OLD ENOUGH THAT I REMEMBER NUCLEAR SHELTERING SIGNS ALL OVER THE PLACE. AND YOU WANDER INTO A GYM AND THERE'D BE THIS, LIKE, SIGN, RIGHT? YEAH. HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT SIGNAGE FOR THINGS THAT WERE OFFICIALLY DESIGNATED AS WARMING SHELTERS? THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE I HAVE THOUGHT AND YOU KNOW, ABOUT ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF HAVING SOME OF OUR FIRE STATIONS BE DESIGNATED THAT WAY. AND CERTAINLY I NOTICE ON I MEAN, A WEBSITE'S GREAT IF YOU GOT IF YOU GOT A SMARTPHONE, IT'S NOT SO GREAT IF YOU DON'T. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, NOTHING BEATS NOTHING BEATS SIGNAGE WHERE YOU ARE, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. 
          SO I I'D LOVE TO I'D LOVE TO HAVE SOME EXPLORATION OF LIKE, LIKE PHYSICAL IDENTIFICATIONS OF WHERE WARMING SHELTERS ARE FOR FOLKS. I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT. AND WE CAN, YOU KNOW, LOOK INTO LIKE MAYBE ALMOST MOBILE SIGNAGE TOO, SEEING AS HOW, YOU KNOW, THESE MIGHT BE IMPACTED DIFFERENT HOURS, DIFFERENT DAYS. WE CAN LOOK AT WHAT THAT WOULD BE LIKE, KIND OF LIKE VOTING. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. TODAY GET WARM HERE TODAY. YES. ABSOLUTELY. WE'LL 
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DEFINITELY LOOK INTO THAT. AND THEN IN TERMS OF MOBILE GR AND JUST OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM, YOU KNOW, CONTINUING TO PUSH INFORMATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC ON THE ODD EVEN PARKING NEWS RELEASE. WE HAVE WINTER GUIDES THAT ARE AVAILABLE, CONTINUING TO MENTION WINTER PREPAREDNESS AND ALL OF OUR EXTERNAL PUBLICATIONS. AND THEN REALLY FROM THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, OUR ROLE IS CONTINUING TO PUSH OUT THOSE EMERGENCY ALERTS, BOTH TO THE PUBLIC FOR SEVERE WEATHER THAT'S COMING IN AND ALSO TO CITY STAFF WHEN THERE ARE ADVERSE WEATHER CONDITIONS AND THERE MIGHT BE SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS. SO WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT WE SEND THOSE OUT TO A BROAD NETWORK. AGAIN, I MENTIONED OUR NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE COLLABORATION. WE WORK REALLY CLOSELY WITH THEM, SO I APPRECIATE THEIR SUPPORT. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DEVELOP AND IMPROVE THOSE RELATIONSHIPS, CONTINUING WITH SOCIAL MEDIA MESSAGING. AND THEN AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY JUST A LOT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND EDUCATION. I SEE MY ROLE HERE AND OUR ROLE AS THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TO ENSURE THAT THE RESIDENTS AND VISITORS OF GRAND RAPIDS HAVE NOT ONLY THE INFORMATION THAT THEY NEED, BUT THEN THE GUIDANCE OF WHAT TO DO WITH THAT INFORMATION. SINCE I'VE GOT A MINUTE AND 57 SECONDS OF YOUR TIME LEFT, SINCE YOU SEEM TO BE AN AMBITIOUS GUY, THE HALIFAX, NOVA SCOTIA PUT TOGETHER A VOLUNTARILY LIST YOU COULD VOLUNTARILY SIGN UP FOR IF YOU WERE HOMEBOUND, HOMEBOUND, AND HAD MOBILITY ISSUES THAT SIMPLY YOU COULD GET CALLED ON. OKAY, SO AND I THINK THEY MAY HAVE USED VOLUNTEERS TO DO THE CALLING, BUT BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S THREE FEET OF SNOW AND YOU'RE ON A WHEELCHAIR AND YOU CAN'T GET OUT TO YOUR MINIVAN AND SOMEBODY CALLS AND YOU'RE LIKE, YES, I'M OUT OF GROCERIES, I NEED HELP. SOMEBODY TO CHECK IN ON YOU PROACTIVELY. IF YOU PUT YOURSELF IN THAT LIST, SOMETHING THEY DO ABOUT WEATHER EMERGENCIES, THEY'RE LIKE, NO MANDATES. NO, YOU KNOW, BUT IT DOES ALLOW YOU TO PUSH THE QUESTION FOR HELP RATHER THAN HAVE PEOPLE HAVE TO TAKE A STEP THEMSELVES TO ASK FOR HELP. SO I WANT TO PUT THAT IN YOUR DREAM LIST TOO. I LIKE THAT, I LOVE THE PROACTIVE NATURE OF THAT TOO. AND AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT OUR OFFICE IS LOOKING TOWARD. AND WE HAVE OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SPECIALISTS HERE WILL BE TAKING NOTES SO WE CAN TAKE THAT BACK FOR RESEARCH. AND THEN JUST ON OUR LAST SLIDE, AS WE TALK ABOUT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND EDUCATION, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF ACTIVITIES COMING UP THIS AFTERNOON. WE HAVE AN ACTIVITY WITH THE VAN ANDEL INSTITUTE FOR FOURTH TO SIXTH GRADERS, YOU KNOW, WORKING ON THEIR DISASTER KIND OF PROJECTS THAT THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON OVER THE PAST SEMESTER, ENSURING THAT THEY HAVE THE INFORMATION AND THE SUPPORT TO KIND OF CONTINUE SOMETHING, IF THAT, IF THAT IS WHAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN. WE ALSO HAVE AN EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS NIGHT ARENA TAKE OVER AT THE GRIFFINS GAME THAT'S COMING UP ON JANUARY 2ND. WE'LL HAVE FIRE DEPARTMENT, POLICE DEPARTMENT STAFF THERE. WE WILL BE THERE. A LOT OF GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO NOT ONLY SHOW WHAT EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS LOOKS LIKE, GET PEOPLE REGISTERED FOR EMERGENCY ALERTS, BUT REALLY SHOW THE CITIZENS AND VISITORS HOW MANY DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS ARE INTERACTING TO ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE A SAFE AND ENJOYABLE TIME WHEN THEY'RE OUT IN THE CITY. SO REALLY EXCITED FOR THAT. YOU CAN SEE OUR EXERCISES AND TRAININGS THAT WE HAVE COMING UP AS WELL, INCLUDING A POSSIBLE CERT CLASS IN SPANISH AND THEN ON TIME. THAT IS WHERE I WILL WRAP IT UP. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF ANYBODY HAS ANY. ANYBODY GOT ANY QUESTIONS COMMISSIONER. YES WE DO. WE HAVE OR HAVE WE THOUGHT OF ANYTHING SUCH AS AN EMERALD ALERT FOR MISSING PERSONS BY CHANCE? THAT HAS BEEN A PHENOMENON RECENTLY, THAT IT SEEMS LIKE WE SORT OF SCRAMBLE WHEN IT HAPPENS. AND IT'S BEEN VERY DISTRESSING FOR MANY CONSTITUENTS WHO HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME. ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? YEAH. I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO SEE WHO THE RESPONSIBLE AUTHORITY IS FOR ISSUING THOSE MISSING PERSONS. I KNOW FOR MISSING CHILDREN, I THINK IT'S SPECIFICALLY THROUGH THE MICHIGAN STATE POLICE. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO SEE WHERE WE WOULD FALL WITHIN WHICH JURISDICTION HAS UTILITY WITH THAT. BUT WE HAVE THE ALERTING NETWORK. AND SO IF THERE'S ANY WAY WE CAN ENHANCE AND AMPLIFY THAT MESSAGE, WHEN WE DO HAVE A MISSING PERSONS, WE'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. THANK YOU. IN THE ROOM, CHIEF. YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT? AS A POLICE STATION? SURE. I THINK BEN IS CORRECT IN THAT THE IT GOES TO THE MICHIGAN STATE POLICE. AS FAR AS THE AMBER ALERT, TECHNICALLY WE DO HAVE OBVIOUSLY OUR SOCIAL MEDIA CAPABILITY, THE THE. QUALIFICATIONS TO TO REACH AMBER ALERT IS A LITTLE HIGH FOR SOME INDIVIDUALS WHO UNFORTUNATELY, THE STATE SETS THOSE RULES SO WE CAN'T OVERRIDE IT. BUT THERE HAS TO BE SOME SOME SIGNIFICANT INDICATION THAT THERE IS DANGER. SO AND IT HAS TO BE SUBSTANTIAL. SO WE DO GET MISSING PERSONS REPORTS FROM INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE CONVINCED THAT ERIC WINSTROM IS IN DANGER. HE'S MISSING, BUT IT DOESN'T RISE TO THAT LEVEL THAT'S REQUIRED BY THE STATE POLICE. SO WE CAN'T PUT OUT AN AMBER ALERT, BUT WE DO WHAT WE CAN ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA. AND WE I THINK WE DO A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF IT. GREAT. YOU DID A GOOD JOB OF GETTING THAT KID IN THE SHOPPING MALL THE OTHER DAY. I'M SURE THAT WASN'T AN AMBER ALERT. WAS THAT KID RUNNING AROUND A PARKING LOT, WHICH WAS A BAD IDEA. IF ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO? GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. 
          [3. Informational Update on Urban Deer Management]
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THAT BRINGS US UP TO OUR URBAN DEER MANAGEMENT TOPIC ON EVERYONE'S MIND. DON'T EVER TRY TO MANAGE URBAN TURKEYS. I REALLY AM FOND OF THE TURKEY IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. I LOVE OUR TURKEY. IT'S WORTHWHILE TO NOTE TURKEYS ARE GREAT FOR TICK CONTROL. ALL RIGHT, HIT WITH YOUR CAR THOUGH. SO DOUG MATTHEWS, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER I BELIEVE THE LAST TIME THAT YOU GOT AN UPDATE ON THIS, JAMES HURT WAS STANDING BEHIND THE PODIUM. HE'S SINCE RETIRED. 
          I'VE RECEIVED THE MANTLE. I'M STILL NOT SURE HOW I FEEL ABOUT THAT, BUT HERE WE ARE. SO IF YOU ALL RECALL, LAST YEAR WE HAD TAKEN SOME EFFORTS TO DO A PILOT HUNT IN AN AREA ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN. ULTIMATELY, WE TABLED THAT AS A RESULT OF SOME COMMUNITY PUSHBACK AND DECIDED THAT WE WERE GOING TO WAIT UNTIL WE GOT RESULTS BACK FROM KENT COUNTY AND GVSU ON THEIR STUDY. SO THIS IS AN UPDATE ON THOSE FINDINGS. THERE'S NO PARTICULAR ACTION TO BE TAKEN HERE. JUST WANTED YOU ALL TO BE AWARE AND BE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY OF THE QUESTIONS AS BEST I CAN. SO I MENTIONED THE TIMELINE. IT WAS WINTER OF 24 WHEN WE GOT TOGETHER WITH THE OTHER URBAN COMMUNITIES TO TALK ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND REALLY RAISE THE CONVERSATION AS A REGIONAL ISSUE. IT WAS SUMMER OF 24 WHEN THE COUNTY CONTRACTED WITH GVSU, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IF ANY ONE COMMUNITY TAKES ACTION BECAUSE OF THE MIGRATORY NATURE OF THE DEER HERD, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY MEANINGFUL IMPACT OVER THE LONG TERM. THEY'VE BEEN DOING THOSE SPOTLIGHT SURVEYS EACH SEASON THROUGH THE FALL, AND THEN JUST ABOUT A MONTH AGO IS WHEN WE GOT THE FINAL REPORT AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM GVSU. SO THERE WERE HIRED TO A UNDERSTAND THE PUBLIC SENTIMENT, COLLECT DATA ON THE POPULATION, ANALYZE THOSE TRENDS BOTH IN TERMS OF CONCENTRATION, BUT ALSO ON WHAT THOSE MIGRATION CORRIDORS ARE, AND THEN PROVIDE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON THE DATA. HERE'S THEIR TIMELINE ON THE STUDY. YOU MAY RECALL, LAST FALL THEY DID A BIG PUBLIC PERCEPTION STUDY AND THEN SET ABOUT DOING THOSE SPOTLIGHT SURVEYS. THEY CHECKED BACK IN WITH THE COMMUNITY THIS PAST SUMMER, HAD A SERIES OF OPEN HOUSE ENGAGEMENTS TO PROVIDE UPDATES, AND THEN CONTINUED AND COMPLETED THEIR WORK. SO THE DATA THE DATA SHOWS RIGHT HERE, YOU'LL SEE. AND THIS WAS THE THE THE GRAPHIC THAT THEY PROVIDED TO US, JUST TO BE CLEAR, THAT DEER KILLED ON THE ROADS IN 2024 EXCEEDED THE NUMBER THAT WERE HARVESTED BY HUNTERS. YOU SEE HOW THOSE TRENDS HAVE BEEN GOING IN OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS SINCE 2021. MOST OF THE CRASHES THAT OCCUR HAPPEN ALONG THE INTERSTATE CORRIDORS 96, ONE, 31, AND 44. THEY'RE SPOTLIGHT SURVEYS SHOW EXACTLY WHERE THE CONCENTRATIONS ARE, AND THIS IS WHAT THEY FOUND OUT. IT'S NOT THE RURAL AREAS, IT'S NOT THE URBAN AREAS. IT'S ACTUALLY THE SUBURBAN AREAS WHERE THE POPULATIONS ARE HIGHEST IN THEIR MOST DENSE. SO THAT INCLUDES KENTWOOD, CASCADE, CALEDONIA, VIRGIN, NELSON AND PLAINFIELD TOWNSHIPS. WHEN YOU LOOK AT PUBLIC PERCEPTION, YOUR RURAL RESIDENTS ARE MORE LIKELY TO ENJOY HAVING THEM AROUND WHERE YOU'RE URBAN AND SUBURBAN RESIDENTS CONSIDER THEM MORE OF A NUISANCE. SO THESE ARE THE TRAVEL CORRIDORS. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF CLEAR. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DENSITY OF THE TREES, WE HAVE SOME CLEAR HABITAT CORRIDORS THROUGHOUT THIS AREA. 
          MOST OF THOSE ARE NORTH AND EAST, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT TRACKS WITH WHERE SOME OF THE BIG CONCENTRATIONS ARE AND WHERE SOME OF THE HIGHEST CONCENTRATIONS OF DEER VEHICLE ACCIDENTS ARE OCCURRING. SO YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THOSE HERE, WALKER, KENTWOOD AND SOME OF THE TOWNSHIP SOUTHEAST OF GRAND RAPIDS WHERE YOU HAVE HIGH QUALITY HABITAT FOR CONCENTRATIONS. SO THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS, THE OVERALL GOAL WE NEED TO REDUCE DEER VEHICLE COLLISIONS, COLLISIONS GENERALLY THE GOAL IS 1050 WITHIN TWO YEARS. THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT IS TO HARVEST AN ADDITIONAL 1900 DEER EVERY YEAR ACROSS THE COUNTY. SO THERE'S FOUR AREAS THAT THEY WANT TO LOOK AT ONE MAINTAINING A HEALTHY HERD. REDUCING THE SAFETY RISK FOR MOTORISTS, LIMITING PROPERTY DAMAGE, AND PROTECTING NATURAL ECOSYSTEMS. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT MANAGEMENT OF THE POPULATION ITSELF, YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF OPTIONS. YOU HAVE URBAN ARCHERY HUNTING. YOU HAVE LOCALIZED DEER REDUCTION WITH A FOCUS ON ETHICAL 
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UTILIZATION OF THE BYPRODUCTS AND FACILITATING HUNTER RECRUITMENT AND ACCESS TO LAND, WHICH IS MORE APPROPRIATE IN SOME OF THE MORE RURAL AREAS OF THE OF THE COUNTY. MANAGING THE DEER HABITAT, INCREASING THE MOWING AND THE RIGHTS OF WAY INCREASES VISIBILITY AND DECREASES THE LIKELIHOOD THAT THOSE ARE THE AREAS WHERE DEER ARE GOING TO CHOOSE TO CROSS THE ROAD. NATIVE LANDSCAPING, DEER RESISTANT LANDSCAPING, AND ESTABLISHING AND ENFORCING ORDINANCES TO BAN DEER FEEDING. THIS IS NOTABLE THAT ALREADY IN THE LOWER PENINSULA, IT'S AGAINST STATE LAW. SO WE'VE GOT TO GO BACK AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT MEANS FROM A MUNICIPAL STANDPOINT, IS IT ENFORCING THE STATE LAW, OR THERE ARE ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT ENGAGEMENT AND PLANNING, CONTINUING TO MONITOR, MONITOR PUBLIC PERCEPTIONS AND CONTINUING OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING AROUND THIS AS WE CONTINUE TO MONITOR AND UPDATE THE DATA YEAR OVER YEAR OR SEASON OVER SEASON. SO THEY'VE DESIGNATED DEER MANAGEMENT UNITS DMU. THESE ARE THE AREAS WHERE THEY FEEL LIKE THERE'S DISTINCT CHARACTERISTICS THAT REQUIRE CERTAIN MANAGEMENT APPROACHES. THIS IS THE MATRIX THAT THEY PUT TOGETHER FOR US. WE ARE IN DMU THREE. YOU'LL SEE THAT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDE URBAN HUNTING, LOCAL HUNTS, RIGHT OF WAY MOWING, NATIVE PLANTING, LEANING IN ON THE FEEDING BANDS AND THEN CONTINUING TO MONITOR AND TO PLAN. THE BIGGEST THING HERE IS TO BE EFFECTIVE. IT HAS TO OCCUR COUNTYWIDE. SO I THINK ONE OF THE NOTES THAT WE GOT FROM THE MICHIGAN NATIONAL DEER ASSOCIATION, WHEN THEY WERE GOING TO DO THE HUNT ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN, THEY'RE LIKE, LOOK, WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT THERE FOR THREE WEEKS AND WE MIGHT GET SEVEN DEER. AND THE PROBLEM IS, MUCH AS YOU ALL KNOW, MUCH LARGER THAN THAT. SO THE NEXT STEPS. THE COUNTY IS CURRENTLY DOING A ROAD SHOW WITH THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES AND TOWNSHIPS TO TALK ABOUT THESE RESULTS, BUT ALSO IDENTIFY WHERE THEY CAN STEP IN WITH BOTH OPERATIONAL AND FINANCIAL COMMITMENTS AND DEVELOP TIMELINES ACROSS THE REGION. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SOME OF THOSE COMMITMENTS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S BEEN BEEN BROUGHT UP IS, OF COURSE, THE DENSER THE AREA BECOMES, THE MORE DANGEROUS, DANGEROUS IT IS TO HAVE HUNTING IN THOSE AREAS. THE AIRPORT ALREADY HAS SOMEBODY FROM USDA ON CONTRACT TO HELP MANAGE THEIR DEER POPULATION. THESE ARE SHARPSHOOTERS. SO ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE'RE HAVING WITH THE COUNTY, IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO EXPAND THAT, TO BE ABLE TO BE VERY TARGETED IN SOME OF THE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE PARTICULAR CONCERNS AROUND INDIVIDUAL SAFETY? NONETHELESS, STEP IS TO PRIORITIZE AND BEGIN EXECUTION ON THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AS THE RESOURCES ALLOW. I WANT TO NOTE THE FULL REPORT IS AVAILABLE. 
          KENT COUNTY, MI GOV SLASH DEER. IT'S WORTH GETTING FAMILIARIZED WITH. WE'RE FAMILIARIZING OURSELVES WITH IT, BUT THE NEXT CONVERSATION WILL HAPPEN AT OUR METRO SIX MEETING WITH THE COUNTY AND THE MAJOR MUNICIPALITIES IN THE COUNTY TO TALK ABOUT, OKAY, WHO'S IN AND WHAT ARE WE COMMITTING TO? DOUG, THIS IS MOSTLY NOT YOUR PROBLEM, BUT YOU'RE HERE, SO I'M GOING TO TALK TO YOU. ONE THING THAT I DON'T SEE IN ANY OF THIS ANALYSIS IS A QUESTION OF AG, AND I THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. SO LET ME TELL YOU A QUICK STORY AND TELL A GROUP OF STORY. I OWN A FARM, A FARM IN CANNON TOWNSHIP, AND MY BRIEF EXPERIENCE WITH CONSIDERING HUNTING WAS THAT THE DEER WERE EATING MY CROPS. AND SO I FIGURED IF THEY'RE EATING MY CROPS, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO EAT THEM. I CALLED THE AG FOLKS, AND THE AG FOLKS SAID, NO, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO CALL DEER ON YOUR FARM. AND I'M LIKE, WELL, THEY'RE EATING MY CROPS. 
          AND THEY'RE LIKE, HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT PUTTING UP A BIG WALL LIKE TRUMP WANTS TO DO? AND THAT WAS THEIR RESPONSE. SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF WE COULD GET AG TO LIKE SAY IN KENT COUNTY, WE DON'T HAVE ANY SEASONAL RESTRICTIONS ON HUNTING, WE DON'T HAVE ANY QUANTITY RESTRICTIONS ON HUNTING AND ENABLE PEOPLE TO HUNT ON ON FARMLAND AT WILL. 
          YOU COULD GET A LOT OF DEER IN A HURRY. AND THERE ARE I KNOW THERE ARE. I MEAN, THERE ARE FARMS ADJACENT TO WALKER, THERE'S FARMS ALL OVER THE COUNTY. AND IF, IF, IF THE PROBLEM IS FUNDAMENTALLY NOT AN URBAN ONE, BUT WE WANT TO STOP THESE DEER FROM GETTING INTO THE CITIES AND ONTO OUR ROADS. I THINK THAT AGRICULTURAL PRACTICES IS A BIG DEAL, AND THAT MAY TAKE SOME LEGISLATIVE PUSH. BUT IF WE COULD GET THE DEPARTMENT OF AG TO JUST SAY, YEAH, SURE, YOU CAN GET YOU CAN TAKE OUT DEER ON FARM, IT'S OPEN SEASON ON FARMLAND ALL THE TIME. THAT MIGHT MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE, WAS THE ANSWER. NO, BECAUSE IT WASN'T IN SEASON WAS THE ANSWER NO, BECAUSE THEY JUST DON'T ALLOW IT. BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT'S THEY BASICALLY THEY SAID WE HAVE A POLICY THAT WE DON'T ALLOW YOU TO CULL DEER AND YOU CAN GET A 
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SPECIAL PERMIT. BUT FIRST YOU HAVE TO PROVE TO US THAT YOU'VE BUILT 30 FOOT FENCES AROUND YOUR PROPERTY. AND I'M LIKE, I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT. AND SO THAT WAS AS FAR AS THE CONVERSATION WENT. SO IF THEY CHANGED THEIR POLICY AND HAD MUCH MORE LIBERAL CRITERIA FOR DEER CULLING ON AG PROPERTY, AND THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN JUST WORK THROUGH THE REGIONAL OFFICE. YEAH. YEAH, EXACTLY. BUT I THINK, I THINK HOW AG INTERACTS WITH FARMERS IS, IS A PIECE OF THIS PUZZLE. SO. ANYBODY ELSE GOT ANY FARMING STORIES? OKAY. THANKS. 
          AND THANKS. AS CITY MANAGER REALLY WANTED TO POINT OUT LIKE THIS IS A REGIONAL PROBLEM, RIGHT. LIKE GRAND RAPIDS CAN'T POSSIBLY SOLVE THAT ON ITS OWN, NOR DO WE WANT TO TRY. I THINK WE'RE ALSO ANTICIPATING CONVERSATION WITH THE GRAND VALLEY METRO COUNCIL AS WELL IN THE NEW YEAR ABOUT THIS TOPIC. THANK YOU. THANKS. AND THAT BRINGS US TO OUR LAST BRIEFING, 
          [4. Presentation from the Grand Rapids Police Department on Monthly Crime Stats]
THE LAST BUT NOT LEAST, AND ALWAYS WITH GOOD WITH VERY POSITIVE NUMBERS. POLICE CHIEF TO TALK ABOUT OUR PUBLIC SAFETY UPDATE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER KILGORE, I DIDN'T MEAN TO OVERSIMPLIFY OUR RESPONSE TO ESPECIALLY ENDANGERED MISSING INDIVIDUALS. WE RECENTLY HAD A ELDERLY INDIVIDUAL GO MISSING. I FILED THE. THE PROGRESS OF THE INVESTIGATION. AND BECAUSE WE ARE IN A MORE URBAN ENVIRONMENT, WE HAVE THE THE OFFICERS TO BE ABLE TO DO A FULL CANVASS LOCALLY. OBVIOUSLY, WE ARE BLESSED WITH EIGHT CANINES WHICH ARE TRAINED TO DETECT INDIVIDUALS. AND OF COURSE WE'RE SUPPORTED BY OUR DRONE TEAM. SO WE ARE VERY GOOD IF THEY GO MISSING IN OUR JURISDICTION. I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT BECAUSE WHEN I MENTIONED THE SOCIAL MEDIA, I JUST SAID AS AN ALTERNATIVE, IF WE CAN'T GET IT OUT, YOU KNOW, ONE WAY, IF WE THINK IT'S CROSSING, IF THE INDIVIDUALS ARE IN A CAR, FOR EXAMPLE. YEAH, THAT THAT'S AN ALTERNATIVE THAT WE HAVE. BUT IT IS SOMETHING WE TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY. YEAH. THANK YOU. I WAS THINKING OF DETROIT'S NEW EMERALD ALERT. 
          EMERALD ALERT IF WE'RE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO THAT WAS THAT'S I LIKE THAT NEWER. 
          YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU THOUGH. THANK YOU. OKAY. GOOD NEWS CONTINUES IN THE AUTO THEFT. 
          AUTO THEFT NUMBERS. AS YOU CAN SEE I HOPE THAT THIS THIS STORY IS CONTINUE. AND WE SEE THAT NUMBER DROP A YEAR FROM NOW. AND NEXT TO NOTHING OR NOTHING ROBBERY TOTALS AS YOU CAN SEE TRENDING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. LOWEST IN FOUR YEARS YEAR TO DATE. PERSON SHOT TRENDING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. BUT OBVIOUSLY WE'VE HAD TEN INDIVIDUALS WHO LOST THEIR LIVES BY GUNFIRE AND THAT IS TOO MANY. BUT I'D RATHER SEE THE DECLINE THAN AN INCREASE. 
          PERSON SHOT MAP. NO REAL STORIES TO TELL HERE OTHER THAN FOLLOWS THE DENSITY OF POPULATION GENERALLY. AND OF COURSE WE NOW HAVE LOST 13 INDIVIDUALS. WE'LL SAY GREAT WORK THAT BY THE DETECTIVES. THEY RECENTLY MADE AN ARREST ON THE BARRY HODGES KILLING, WHICH IS ONE DOWN AT KALAMAZOO AND HALL. SO I BELIEVE THAT LEAVES FOUR OPEN FOR THIS YEAR. AND WE'RE WORKING VERY HARD TO GET ANSWERS FOR THOSE FAMILIES. WE TALKED LAST COMMISSION MEETING ABOUT COMPARISON, SOME PER CAPITA COMPARISONS. AND I WILL SAY CREDIT TO MY TEAM, ESPECIALLY MY CRIME ANALYSTS. WE HAVE A VERY PUBLIC FACING DASHBOARD. ANYBODY CAN GET OUR CRIME DATA. AND WE SEEM TO BE JUST ABOUT THE ONLY ONES IN THE STATE OF MICHIGAN WHO HAVE THAT, BECAUSE I ATTEMPTED TO GET RELIABLE NUMBERS FROM SIMILAR SIZED TOWNS, AND THEY'RE JUST NOT OUT THERE. SO I WOULD HAVE LITERALLY HAD TO PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL THE CHIEFS. I DIDN'T WANT TO CALL THEM OUT LIKE THAT, SO I DIDN'T. BUT SOME OF OUR MY FRIEND BOB TRACY, THE CHIEF IN SAINT LOUIS, HE, LIKE US, PUBLISHES A WEEKLY ACTUALLY HIS UPDATES AND YOU CAN SEE THE PER CAPITA NUMBERS KIND OF PAINT A DIFFERENT PICTURE THAN JUST STRAIGHT UP NUMBERS. IT'S 43.6 PER 100,000 IF YOU'RE IN SAINT LOUIS. OBVIOUSLY, FLINT IS ONE OF THE MORE DANGEROUS IN IN THE STATE OF MICHIGAN, CHICAGO, MY FORMER JURISDICTION, THEY'RE OVER TWICE AS DANGEROUS AS HERE. AND 6.56.5 IS A NUMBER THAT'S TOO HIGH. AND WE WANT TO SEE THAT NUMBER GET DOWN AS CLOSE TO ZERO AS POSSIBLE AS WE MOVE ON. BUT IT DOES KIND OF GIVE YOU A MORE. EYE OPENING VISUAL HERE TO SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING. CLEARANCE RATE LOOKING UP NUMBERS. WE JUST CLEARED IT 23 2023 MURDERS. SO THOSE NUMBERS HAVE INCREASED. WE WANT TO KEEP ON GOING. LIKE I SAY, WE DON'T HAVE COLD CASES. WE JUST HAVE OLD CASES. AND WE ARE STILL WORKING ON THOSE BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A LOWER NUMBER OF MURDERS IN THE PAST. THIS YEAR AND LAST YEAR, OUR HOMICIDE DETECTIVES HAVE BEEN ABLE TO REALLY PICK UP THE PACE ON THESE OLDER MURDERS, AND WE WANT TO GET THOSE ANSWERS FOR THE FAMILY. UNFORTUNATELY, 15 OVERDOSES, FATAL YEAR TO DATE. A LOT OF NARCAN OUT THERE, BOTH BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE POLICE 
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DEPARTMENT. THAT NUMBER WILL BE SO MUCH HIGHER IF WE DIDN'T VERY INTENTIONALLY ARM OUR CITY WORKERS WITH THAT GREAT DRUG. 444 NOW, IS THE AMOUNT OF ILLEGALLY POSSESSED GUNS RECOVERED BY OUR OFFICERS. AND I KIND OF SPED THROUGH THAT BECAUSE I WANTED TO BE RESPECTFUL OF EVERYONE'S TIME. SO GREAT NUMBERS, CHIEF, AND I DON'T I DON'T REALLY WANT THIS INCLUDED IN A STAT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TEASE OUT WITH YOU A LITTLE BIT. I KNOW THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT INCIDENTS THAT THAT RESULT IN DEATH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE ALWAYS THINKING THROUGH IS CONNECTIVITY AND THE STORY INVOLVED. RIGHT. AND SO WE ALL KNOW THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO WORK ON IS STOP REPRISAL ACTIONS TO, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WAY TO PUT IT. NOW, I PROBABLY TO DO THE ANALYSIS THERE. YOU'D HAVE TO CUT OUT, SAY, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS IN COMMUNICATION WITH EACH OTHER BY DEFINITION, OR THEY WOULDN'T BE DVS. AND I REALLY APPLAUD YOU FOR THE WORK ON AND THE DARE ASSESSMENT, WHICH I THINK EVERYONE UP HERE KNOWS. WE'VE GOT THIS NEW CRITERIA. 
          CHIEF VERY CLEARLY IDENTIFIED THE NUMBER OF DV RELATED MURDERS WE HAVE IN THE CITY, AND TRYING TO DRIVE THAT NUMBER DOWN. IT'S A NON-ZERO NUMBER. IT'S NOT A BIG NUMBER, BUT IT'S A NON-ZERO NUMBER. BUT YOU KNOW, IF IF SOMEONE IF SOME PERSON WHO DIDN'T HAVE A DEEP RELATIONSHIP WITH SOMEBODY ELSE WHO WASN'T TRYING TO COMMIT A REPRISAL OR SOMETHING, IF THERE'S A DEATH THERE, THOSE ARE GOING TO BE HARDER THINGS TO STOP, BECAUSE THEY'RE SORT OF LIKE SOMETHING HAPPENED, RIGHT? RIGHT. THERE'S NO THROUGHPUT NARRATIVE. AND SO DISRUPTING THE NEGATIVE NARRATIVES IS SOMETHING I KNOW YOU'RE VERY FOCUSED ON, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO, LIKE AS WE DRIVE THESE HOMICIDE NUMBERS DOWN IN THESE SHOOTING NUMBERS DOWN. SO I'LL TELL YOU, AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, WHAT WE DO WITH RETALIATION IS SOMETHING THAT IS AT THE TOP OF OUR MIND WHEN WE SEE EITHER FATAL OR NON-FATAL SHOOTING, AND WE LOOK TO SEE WHAT INDIVIDUALS THIS PERSON IS ASSOCIATED WITH. OBVIOUSLY, IF THEY'RE WILLING TO GIVE US THE INFORMATION THAT THIS PERSON HAS IT OUT FOR ME. BUT WHAT WE DO ON A DAILY TWICE A DAY, WE HAVE BRIEFINGS THAT GO OUT TO THE WHOLE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT HIT THE ROAD, PATROL OFFICERS THAT OFTEN HAVE A VERY DETAILED INFORMATION. ERIC WENNSTRÖM WAS SHOT AT TODAY. HE HAS BEEN IN CONFLICT WITH THIS INDIVIDUAL. PLEASE PAY CLOSE ATTENTION, BUT WE HAVE A STEP UP ON SOME OTHER JURISDICTIONS IN THE AREA BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE THAT DIRECT CONNECTION WITH CURE VIOLENCE, WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY OUR CAPTAINS NOW OF EACH AREA ARE DIRECTED TO NOT ONLY GO WITH JEFF RIDGEWAY OVER, OVER, GO DIRECT WITH JEFF AT CURE VIOLENCE, BUT ALSO GO DIRECT WITH OPA TO. AND SO THERE'S SOME OTHER WAY TO AVOID THAT RETALIATION IN SOME WAY THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET TO IT. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF ALL THOSE OPPORTUNITIES. YEAH. SO THANK YOU. THAT'S I MEAN, I KNOW YOU'RE ALWAYS ON TOP OF THIS, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS WORTH POINTING OUT IN PUBLIC, LIKE ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE NOT THEY HAVE DIFFERENT DYNAMICS AND SOME OF THEM ARE SOME OF THEM WITH A THROUGHPUT NARRATIVE. THERE'S SOMETHING YOU CAN DISRUPT WITH SOMETHING THAT JUST SORT OF POPS OUT OF NOWHERE. IT'S HARD TO KNOW, LIKE, WELL, IF WE HAD BEEN DOING A BETTER JOB, THAT WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED. THAT CAN'T THAT SOMETIMES THAT'S LESS TRUE THAN IT IS FOR OTHERS. YEAH. THANKS. SO THANKS. I MEAN GREAT, GREAT RESULTS. I DON'T KNOW, GOING FORWARD YOU HAVE NOT IMPLEMENTED COMMUNITY POLICING YET OR YOU HAVE. COULD YOU GIVE US A BRIEF UPDATE. YEAH. WE'VE SO WE HAVE FIVE NOW TRAINED COMMUNITY OFFICERS, ONE FOR EACH SERVICE AREA. WE'D LIKE TO SEE THAT NUMBER GET GET TO AT LEAST TEN. THEY'RE BEING VERY WELL RECEIVED. THEY'RE SORT OF WARMING UP AND MEETING EVERYONE. BUT ALREADY THEY THEY'VE HIT THE GROUND RUNNING. THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ARE ALSO WORKING WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT. THEY'RE WORKING WITH OUR HOMELESS OUTREACH TEAM. SO WELL RECEIVED. THEY'RE ALSO OUT THERE DOING POLICE WORK. 
          THEY'RE NOT POLICING FROM BEHIND THE COMPUTER. THEY ARE GOING TO COMMUNITY EVENTS AND MEETINGS, BUT THEY'RE ALSO ACTUALLY RESPONDING TO CALLS IN ON THE STREET. WE JUST HAVE TO BE VERY INTENTIONAL WITH GIVING THEM THAT EXTRA CARVE OUT TIME. SO THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS TIED TO THE RADIO, THOSE NINE CALLS, SO THEY CAN GET TO THOSE COMMUNITY EVENTS AND MAKE THOSE POSITIVE COMMUNITY INTERACTIONS. AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO ALL OF OUR LOVELY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, I WOULD LOVE TO MAYBE SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE, A BRIEFING ON LIKE THE CRITERIA YOU'RE USING FOR THOSE OFFICER SUCCESS. SO LIKE IF THEY'RE JUST GOING OUT AND EATING COOKIES AT NEIGHBORHOOD EVENTS EVERY WEEK, THAT'S THAT'S GOOD. BUT IT'S NOT. WE ALSO WANT THEM TO BE CONFLICT INTERRUPTERS IN THE COMMUNITY. ABSOLUTELY. AND AND WORKING ON THAT. SO, SO SO HOW YOU HOW YOU QUANTIFY THAT I MEAN NARRATIVES ARE GOOD. BUT BUT I THINK HAVING THEM MAYBE DO A PRESENTATION TO THIS BODY IN 2025 IS A GREAT IDEA. YEAH, GREAT. OR 2026 IF YOU WANT TO WAIT THAT LONG PASTOR. GEEZ, I WANT TO ADD I JUST SIGNED OFF ON ANOTHER CLASS OF POLICE RECRUITS TO GO TO THE ACADEMY. IS IT NINE OR SO? I MEAN, IS IT CHIEF, EITHER 8 OR 9, 8 OR 9. 
          RIGHT. SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, ONCE THEY GRADUATE, IF WE GET THE FUNDING FROM THE PUBLIC 
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SAFETY GRANT TRUST NEXT YEAR, IF THAT DOESN'T BECOME A CLAWBACK EITHER, THAT WOULD HELP TO OFFSET THAT COST. BUT WE'RE HOPEFULLY HOPEFULLY THAT WILL GO THROUGH GREAT. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. BUT BUT BUT ONE OF THE ITEMS I'M GLAD WE SAID ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WAS IMPACTED WAS FOR CO-RESPONSE MODEL. SO LIKE A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS. AND SO WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT IN OUR LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE. YEAH. WELL THANKS SO MUCH, CHIEF. AND YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE THE ONLY OFFICER IN THE ROOM, BUT, YOU KNOW, VICARIOUSLY, THANKS TO EVERYBODY ON THE FORCE FOR FOR DOING THIS WORK. AND, YOU KNOW, THE RESULTS DON'T JUST SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. YOU ALSO SPEAK FOR THE RESULTS. BUT THEY'RE BOTH GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE ARE ADJOURNED BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GO BREAK GROUND ON SOMETHING OR RIBBON CUT ON SOMETHING. SOMETHING.
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