[1. Resolution approving purchase of additional licenses for use of the Oracle ERP and Purchasing systems in an amount not to exceed $110,105]
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          RIGHT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET OUR MEETING HERE UNDERWAY. SO ITEM NUMBER ONE IS A RESOLUTION APPROVING PURCHASE OF ADDITIONAL LICENSES FOR THE USE OF OUR ORACLE ERP AND PURCHASING SYSTEMS. AND THAT'S IN THE AMOUNT OF $110,105. SO SUPPORT. ALL RIGHT. MOVED AND SUPPORTED. MISS CLARENCE GOING TO DO A QUICK PRESENTATION HERE JUST TO GIVE US SOME MORE INFORMATION ON THIS ITEM. SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU. YES. SO THE ITEM YOU'RE VOTING ON TODAY IS SPECIFIC FOR OUR ORACLE CONTRACT. WE ARE NEEDING TO PROCURE ADDITIONAL NEED TO PROCURE ADDITIONAL PROCUREMENT LICENSES AND ERP LICENSES. WHEN THE CONTRACT WAS ORIGINALLY PUT TOGETHER BACK IN 2003, I BELIEVE IT WAS ANTICIPATED THAT WE WOULD BE MORE CENTRALIZED. 
          WE WOULDN'T NEED AS MANY, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ABLE TO PUT IN POS PURCHASE ORDERS, THINGS LIKE THAT IN THE SYSTEM, OUT AT THE DEPARTMENT LEVEL. THAT MIGRATION TO GO MORE CENTRALIZED DID NOT HAPPEN. AND DURING OUR ERP IMPLEMENTATION, YOU KNOW, WE BUT GIVEN THE TIMING OF NEEDING TO DO THIS, WE THOUGHT IT WAS GOOD TIMING AS WELL. AFTER OUR LAST CHANGE ORDER, I BELIEVE WE PASSED THAT IN SEPTEMBER. THIS BODY ASKED, HEY, HOW ABOUT YOU COME BACK AND TELL US WHERE ARE WE AT WITH THE ERP? IT WAS A HUGE LIFT FOR OUR STAFF TO DO. WE'VE BEEN LIVE FOR OVER SIX MONTHS NOW AND YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO KNOW WHERE THAT INVESTMENT'S AT AND WHAT'S GOING ON. SO I'M GOING TO DO A BRIEF POWERPOINT PRESENTATION IF WE I'LL TRY TO ANSWER AS MANY QUESTIONS AS WE CAN. BUT IF WE DO RUN OUT OF TIME, CERTAINLY I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH EMAIL ON SOME OF THEM AS WELL. SO WITH OUR ERP, WE WE CHOSE TO IMPLEMENT CLOUD FUSION. ONE OF THE REASONS WE CHOSE CLOUD FUSION WAS ITS TRIED AND TRUE. 
          MANY MUNICIPALITIES USE THIS PRODUCT. UNLIKE OUR PREVIOUS TWO ITERATIONS OF THIS. SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE WITH THE DIFFERENT FINANCIAL SYSTEMS AND ERP SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, WE DID BETA SYSTEMS, THINGS THAT WE'RE A LITTLE MORE CUTTING EDGE OR NEWER OR FIRST FORAY INTO CLOUD BASED. I BELIEVE THAT WAS OUR MOST RECENT CGI, A 360. SO WE ENDED UP HAVING TO DEAL WITH A LOT OF ISSUES RELATED TO THAT KIND OF SITUATION. THIS TIME WHEN WE WENT OUT FOR THE ERP, THAT WAS A BIG FOCUS OF OUR GROUP. WHEN WE CHOSE ORACLE FOR AN IMPLEMENTER, WE CHOSE HIGH STREET. THEY HAD A GREAT TRACK RECORD. WE DID A LOT OF DUE DILIGENCE AROUND TALKING TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES WHO WORKED WITH THEM, AND THEY SEEMED TO BE A GOOD FIT. SO WE PROCEEDED WITH HIGH STREET AS OUR IMPLEMENTER. AS FAR AS FUNDING GOING FOR THE PROJECT. YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT THERE WITH HIGH STREET, WE WE HAVE STRAYED FROM OUR ORIGINAL IMPLEMENTATION BUDGET. SO 4.8 MILLION CHANGE ORDERS TO DATE. WE'VE NEARLY DOUBLED THE PROJECT. AND SO THAT PUTS THE TOTAL NEW PROJECT COSTS AROUND 9.5 MILLION. AS FAR AS OUR SOFTWARE GOES, WHEN WE ADOPTED ORACLE FUSION, THREE YEAR COSTS ABOUT 2 MILLION WITH THE WITH THE REQUEST TODAY, THAT BRINGS OUR CHANGE ORDERS UP TO 180,000. AND THEN SO A TOTAL PROJECT COST OF 2.18 MILLION JUST FOR USE OF THE SOFTWARE, CLOUD BASED SERVICES AND USE OF ALL THE MODULES. I WILL TALK SORRY FORWARD FAR TOO FAST. THE FUNDING SOURCES WE WERE ABLE TO UTILIZE THE ARPA FUNDING GRANT. WE'VE HAD TO START KICKING IN A LITTLE BIT OF GENERAL FUND SUPPORT AS WELL, AS WE HAD LEFTOVER MONEY IN THE TRANSFORMATIONAL FUND AT THE BEGINNING SO THAT THAT WAS OUR INITIAL FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT. AND THEN WE'RE ABLE TO KICK IN THAT ARPA GRANT MONEY. IF I WAS GOING TO DESCRIBE THIS, THIS PROJECT, WE'VE WE'VE OFTEN USED, YOU KNOW, BOATING OR SAILING TERMS TO TALK ABOUT. I SEE DREW NODDING BECAUSE THIS IS HIS WHAT HE DOES. BUT IT YOU CAN EQUATE IT A LOT TO TO SAILING IN THAT IT'S INTENSIVE TEAMWORK AND COORDINATION. IT'S COMPLEX. 
          IT'S IT'S TEMPERAMENTAL AND IT'S EXPENSIVE. SO 60% OF THESE ERP FAIL. SO IT IS IT DOES TAKE A HUGE LIFT ON THE ENTITY THAT CHOOSES TO UNDERGO THIS WORK. AND AND I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE OUR CITY OF GRAND RAPIDS TEAM. THEY'VE BEEN THEY'VE BEEN RIGHT THERE FROM THE GET GO, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET US ONTO THE BOAT AND OUT OF THE HARBOR. SO SO I DO REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THEY'VE THEY'VE DONE. WHEN I TALK ABOUT THE ERP, WE HAVE THREE PHASES OF ERP IMPLEMENTATION INITIATION. THAT'S JUST TALKING ABOUT IDENTIFYING THE PROBLEMS, DOING YOUR DESIGN WORK AND THEN SETTING UP THE ENVIRONMENTS TO TEST. AND, YOU KNOW, WORKING ON THAT SUITABILITY OF THE CLOUD ERP. THE SECOND STEP WITH ADOPTION, YOU'RE GOING TO 
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STABILIZATION TO OPTIMIZATION. SO WE GO LIVE AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET STABLE. AND AS YOU KNOW IT'S TAKEN US A LONG TIME TO GET STABLE BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED. A BIG ONE, IF I IF I TALK ABOUT THE TREASURER'S OFFICE, FOR INSTANCE, IS WE HAD THE MERGER OF MACATAWA WITH WINTRUST. THAT HAPPENED RIGHT WHEN WE WERE GOING LIVE. SO ALL THESE INTERFACES AND THINGS WE'VE WE'VE BUILT FROM THE BANK INTO OUR SYSTEM FELL APART. WE HAD TO REDESIGN THOSE OVER THE SUMMER. AND SO WE'RE STILL GETTING, YOU KNOW, CAUGHT UP, CAUGHT UP IN THAT AREA. WE ALSO HAD SOME TURNOVER WITH OUR HIGH STREET IMPLEMENTATION TEAM. 
          THAT'S MADE THE PROJECT VERY DIFFICULT AS FAR AS KNOWLEDGE TRANSFER. AND THEN WITH OUR OWN INTERNAL STAFF, THEY'VE THEY'VE HAD TO WORK TONS OF OVERTIME, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND AND WE WE LOST OUR ONE CRITICAL ROLE WAS OUR PAYROLL SUPERVISOR. SO WE'VE HAD PEOPLE DOING DOUBLE DUTY. EVENTUALLY WE WANT TO GET TO THAT ROUTINIZATION, WHICH IS WHEN WE'RE UP USING THE SYSTEM, REALIZING ALL THE EFFICIENCIES. AS FAR AS FUNCTIONALITIES BY MODULE, THIS IS THE ARRAY OF IN EACH MODULE, THE THE FUNCTIONS THAT WE WENT LIVE WITH. SO I'LL KEEP PUSHING FORWARD TO TALKING ABOUT EACH OF THOSE MODULES AND WHERE WE'RE AT WITH FUNCTIONALITY. SO THIS CHART JUST SHOWS WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE ARRAY FROM INITIATION INTO ROUTINIZATION WITH WHERE WE'RE AT WITH EACH OF THOSE. SO IF I TAKE TIME AND LABOR, FOR INSTANCE, WE WENT LIVE. WE'VE DONE A LOT OF CORRECTIONS. SO WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY IS WE'RE REALIZING THAT OUR PAYROLL CLERKS HAVE GAINED ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF ON PAYROLL PROCESSING TIME. SO THEY'RE ABLE TO GET THAT DONE SOONER, WHICH IS GREAT. SELF-SERVICE PAYROLL HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, GREAT TO IMPLEMENT. WE'VE WE'VE ADOPTED IT IN OUR ADMINISTRATIVE TYPE DEPARTMENTS. 
          SO CITY HALL, OUR NEXT PLAN OUR NEXT STEP IS WE'RE GOING TO GO LIVE WITH PARKS AND REC AND THE DEVELOPMENT CENTER BY JANUARY. AND THEN ONE AREA I WOULD SAY IS LAGGING, YOU KNOW, WITH WITH BENEFITS. WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GET THAT SPOOLED UP ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO DO OUR BENEFIT ENROLLMENT THROUGH THE SYSTEM. WE'RE STILL USING THE PREVIOUS SYSTEM FOR ALL OF OUR OPEN ENROLLMENT THINGS. AT THE BOTTOM OF EACH OF THESE SLIDES, YOU'LL SEE WE HAVE KPI IDEAS TO COLLECT QUARTERLY TO MEASURE PROGRESS. WE'LL BE DOING THAT INTERNALLY. JUST, YOU KNOW, THINGS OF THE NATURE OF LIKE TICKET VOLUME. TICKETS ARE WHEN THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH THE SYSTEM, A STAFF MEMBER CAN GO IN, REPORT A TICKET, AND THEN IT GOES TO OUR SYSTEM ADMINISTRATORS IF NEEDED, IT ESCALATES. SO WE SEE HOW OFTEN THAT HAPPENS. AS FAR AS PERFORMANCE, WE LOOK AT ACCURACY. OUR OUR EMPLOYEE IS ABLE TO PICK UP ENTERING IN TIMESHEETS CORRECTLY. AND YOU KNOW, TRANSFERS, TRAINING HOURS PER EMPLOYEE, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          IF WE NEED TO RETRAIN IN THE FINANCE MODULE, THIS THIS HAS A MORE VARIED ARRAY OF WHERE WE'RE AT WITH DIFFERENT THINGS. YOU'LL SEE COLLECTIONS IS AN OFF THE GROUND YET AND LIVE THAT THAT'S AN AREA THAT GOT LEFT BEHIND AT GO LIVE. AND WE'VE JUST STARTED OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS DIGGING INTO TO TRY TO GET IT TO WORK. SO AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE HIGH STREET ACCOUNTABLE TO, TO GET US THERE. SO THAT'S ONE AREA WE'RE PUSHING. WE ARE JUST OVER THE LINE WITH OR TRYING TO GET OVER THE LINE WITH CASH MANAGEMENT. WE ARE LIVE WITH IT. 
          BUT LIKE I SAID, THE MACATAWA WINTRUST MERGER MADE THINGS COMPLICATED. AND THEN THERE WAS CATCH UP TO DO. SO THEY'RE LIVE. THEY'RE JUST HAVING TO PUT EXTRA STAFF EFFORT INTO GETTING US TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE. BUT YOU'LL SEE THAT BLUE DOT OUT THERE WITH PROCUREMENT THAT SEEMS TO BE GOING WELL. SO I'LL KEEP MOVING ALONG WITH OUR BUDGET. BUDGET MODULE, OUR FORECASTING ISN'T LIVE YET, SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. AND THE OTHER AREA WOULD BE THE REPORTING, I WOULD SAY REPORTING ACROSS THE MODULES. WE'RE STILL BUILDING OUT A LOT OF THOSE. THAT WAS A BIG PART OF OUR LAST CHANGE ORDER IN SEPTEMBER THAT I BELIEVE IT WAS 60 690,000 WE APPROVED. SO REPORTING WAS A BIG PART OF THAT, JUST BECAUSE WE NEED THE DATA OUT OF THE SYSTEM NOW THAT WE GOT IT LIVE. AND FINALLY, THE PROJECTS MODULE, IT IS LIVE. 
          WE ARE WORKING ON IT. ONE THING IS IT IS VERY MANUAL RIGHT NOW. IT WENT LIVE AND DID NOT COMMUNICATE WELL WITH THE PAYROLL MODULE AND WITH OUR BUDGET MODULE. SO WE DO HAVE A MANUAL FIX WHERE WE HAVE STAFF HAVING TO DO EXTRA WORK AROUND WORK TO GET IT, TO HAVE THE 
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DATA WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE. WE DO HAVE AN AUTOMATED FIX. AGAIN, THAT WAS PART OF THE LAST CHANGE ORDER THAT'S SUPPOSED TO GO LIVE BY THE END OF THE MONTH. THEY'RE TESTING IT NOW, SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE PICKING UP ALL KINDS OF EFFICIENCIES WITH THAT BECAUSE IT IS IT IS A BIG DRAG FOR, YOU KNOW, TIME STAFF HAS TO COMMIT TO DOING IT. AND FINALLY, WITH BRIDGING TO THE FUTURE, WHAT ARE OUR NEXT STEPS WHILE WE'RE WHILE WE ARE SEEING SOME EFFICIENCIES, I MUST MENTION THE PAYROLL, FOR INSTANCE, WITH SELF-SERVICE AND THE CLERK PROCESSING, WE DO HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO. I THINK WITH THE ROLLOUT OF SELF-SERVICE PAYROLL ACROSS THE ORGANIZATION THAT'S COMING, AND I THINK WE'LL REALIZE EVEN MORE EFFICIENCIES THAT. THE GOAL IS TO GET OUR STAFF MORE MISSION ALIGNED. SO INSTEAD OF HAVING TO DO MANUAL STUFF IN THE SYSTEM, WE GET THEM BACK TO DOING DOING THE WORK OF THE CITY. UNLESS LESS CORRECTIVE ACTION. I, I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, WE ARE IN RANGE WITH A CITY OUR SIZE AS FAR AS THE OVERALL COST OF THE ERP THAT IS, IS SOMETHING I'M HOPING, I'M HOPING WE CAN HOLD TO WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW. I DO HAVE CITY MANAGER HELP ME LEAN INTO OUR IMPLEMENTATION PARTNER ON THE OTHER SIDE. I KNOW I MENTIONED THIS BEFORE IS THERE ARE OTHER AVENUES WE WE ARE DOING SOME DUE DILIGENCE TO EXPLORE, LIKE BRINGING IN ANOTHER THIRD PARTY IMPLEMENTER OR KIND OF FIXER TO HELP US WITH, YOU KNOW, OKAY, WE SET UP THIS PROCESS WITH HIGH STREET. 
          IS IT THE BEST BUSINESS PROCESS OR IS THERE AN EFFICIENCY TO BE GAINED WITH HOW WE SHOULD HAVE SET UP? THE OTHER THING IS, I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH ORACLE SERVICES DIRECTLY TO, YOU KNOW, SEE SEE WHAT IT WHAT IS THEIR THEIR METHOD OF DOING DIRECT CLIENT SERVICES WAYNE COUNTY ACROSS THE STATE. THEY WORK DIRECTLY WITH ORACLE AFTER THEIR FAILED IMPLEMENTATION. 
          THEY THEY PIVOTED AND THAT'S THE DIRECTION THEY WENT. SO AGAIN, WORKING WITH CITY MANAGER ON WHAT'S THE BEST OPTION FOR US. FOR NOW, WE'RE STILL UNDER CONTRACT WITH HIGH STREET. BUT BUT YEAH WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT NEXT STEP AS FAR AS DO WE STAY WITH HIGH STREET AND EXTEND WHEN THAT SUPPORT SERVICES CONTRACT IS UP, WHICH IS WITHIN TWO YEARS, OR DO WE OR DO WE START THINKING ABOUT PIVOTING NOW? SO SO THAT IS WHAT I HAVE PREPARED AS FAR AS WHERE WE'RE AT. I, I KNOW I JAMMED THROUGH IT PRETTY FAST, BUT IF THERE DO WE HAVE TIME FOR A COUPLE QUESTIONS? SURE. YEAH. I'LL TURN TO MY COLLEAGUES AND SEE IF THEY HAVE ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO ASK. SO MANY THINGS GO FOR IT. AND I THINK I ASKED THIS QUESTION BEFORE WHEN WE HAD ANOTHER PRESENTATION IN THIS AND WE WE CONTINUE TO PUT MONEY INTO THIS. 
          THING. AND WHAT IS THIS GOING TO LOOK LIKE THREE MONTHS DOWN THE LINE? BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE, YEAH, WE MAY HAVE SAVED SOME TIME IN WORK EFFORTS IN ONE DEPARTMENT, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE PUSHING A LOT OF THAT TIME INTO OTHER DEPARTMENTS. SO THEY'RE STILL WORKING OVERTIME TRYING TO MAKE THIS THING WORK. I'VE HAD MY OWN INTERACTION WITH IT AND PRETTY MUCH HAVE JUST THROWN MY HANDS UP AND SAID, WHATEVER, BUT IF IF IT'S AFFECTING US THIS MUCH INTERNALLY HERE, HOW MUCH IS IT AFFECTING OUR PARTNERS THAT ARE WORKING ON THE OUTSIDE THAT HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THE SYSTEM? SURE. RIGHT. AND HOW DO WE HOW DO WE WORK WITH THEM TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE GETTING THEIR NEEDS MET? AND THAT'S IN, YOU KNOW, PAYROLL, THAT'S ACCOUNTS PAYABLE, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT OUR PARTNERS HAVE TO DEAL WITH AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEIR NEEDS ARE SATISFIED. AND THEN IF WE'RE IF WE'RE DEALING WITH THIS MUCH PUSHBACK OR NOT GETTING THE SERVICES THAT WE NEED FROM THE ORGANIZATION THAT WE'RE CONTRACTED WITH, THEN WHY ARE WE STILL CONTRACTING WITH THEM? SO OUR YEAH, OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH HIGH STREET IS COMPLICATED BECAUSE WE IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE ONE REASON WE WENT WITH THEM IS BECAUSE OF THIS BRIDGES SOFTWARE FOR INSTANCE IT'S A THEIR OWN PROPRIETARY SOFTWARE THAT HELPS THE MODULES TALK TO EACH OTHER. BASICALLY THAT'S THAT WAS THE WHOLE THING WITH THE PAYROLL, THE PM, THE ISSUE I TALKED ABOUT WITH PROJECTS. 
          SO BECAUSE WE BUILT THIS DURING IMPLEMENTATION AND THEY THEY SET UP THE STRATEGY, IT DIDN'T WORK WITH THE PROJECTS. YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL HAVING TO DO MANUAL STUFF AND THEY THINK THEY FOUND A FIX FOR IT. WE'RE TESTING NOW, BUT WE HAVE SOME PROPRIETARY STUFF IN THERE. SO THEN THAT MAKES US BEHOLD LIKE STUCK WITH HIGH STREET ON A CERTAIN SENSE. SO AS MUCH AS I WOULD LOVE TO CANCEL THE CONTRACT TOMORROW, WE CAN'T JUST UNTETHER OURSELVES FROM IT BECAUSE WE NEED A PARTNER TO COME IN AND GO. I GOT A BETTER WAY TO DO THIS. LET'S LET'S, YOU KNOW, SO THEY CAN HELP US UNTANGLE OURSELVES FROM THAT HIGH STREET. YOU KNOW, FOR 
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INSTANCE, THE BRIDGES FUNCTIONALITY. I'D BE INTERESTED TO KNOWING THE COST OF THE OTHER COMPARISON CITIES THAT YOU MENTIONED IN WHAT THEY'VE PAID UP. SURE. I MEAN, WITH THEIR WITH THEIR PROCESSES AND HOW THAT COMPARES TO WHAT WE'VE PAID OUT SO FAR AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN EMBARKING ON IN THE FUTURE. AND IS IT IS IT REALLY WORTH IT TO CONTINUE IN THIS PATH? RIGHT. AND ASSESSMENT IS GOING TO COST US ANYWHERE FROM 75,000 TO $100,000, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO INVOLVE PEOPLE COMING IN, SITTING WITH STAFF, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT HOW THE SYSTEM WAS BUILT AND THEN CREATING THEIR OWN DEV ENVIRONMENT TO SEE, OKAY, HERE'S WHAT WE CAN DO SO THAT, YOU KNOW, IT IS COSTLY TO GET OUT OF TWO WITH WITH HIGH STREET. WE HAVE TWO MORE YEARS ON OUR SERVICE NOW CONTRACT WHICH IS THEIR ONGOING SUPPORT. 
          SO THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BEING CAREFUL, MAKING SURE WE'RE DOING VERY GOOD DUE DILIGENCE TO FIGURE OUT, OKAY, WE KNOW WE'RE SUPPORTED. NOW WHAT CAN WE DO BE DOING IN THE MEANTIME. SO IT'S SEAMLESS. AND MAYBE WE GET RELEASED FROM THE HIGH STREET CONTRACT EARLY. I WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH ORACLE TO HELP US MAKE HIGH STREET ACCOUNTABLE. 
          WE'VE ALSO BEEN HAVING OUR, YOU KNOW, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAS BEEN INVOLVED AS WELL AS FAR AS TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, HOLD THEM TO THE CONTRACT. SO THEY'VE BEEN A GOOD PARTNER. 
          YEAH. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. SO THE INCREASE IN COST, I GUESS, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION SAKE, IT'S NOT ON THE ORACLE SIDE. IT'S ON THE IMPLEMENTATION SIDE WITH THE PARK. YEAH. YEAH. IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE TWO WE'VE YOU KNOW ORACLE THIS MOST RECENT ONE WE'RE VOTING ON TODAY IS JUST FOR MORE LICENSEES. SURE. YEAH. AND AGAIN IT'S HIGH STREET. 
          TOOK US DOWN A PATH SAID NO YOU PROBABLY DON'T NEED SO MANY WHEN WE DID THE CONTRACT. AND THEN OF COURSE HERE WE HERE WE ARE AND WE FIND OUT, OH, WE NEED SOME MORE LICENSES. SO SO SO YEAH. AND THAT THAT MIGHT BE ONE THING AS WE DO CORRECTIVE ACTION, BEING ABLE TO REALIZE, YOU KNOW, ORACLE IS ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, SET UP TO BE MORE CENTRALIZED. SO WE MIGHT YEAH. 
          YEAH. WELL AND FROM MY WORK IN THE SPACE I KNOW ORACLE IS A GREAT SYSTEM. BUT I THINK THE IMPLEMENTER IS WHAT MAKES OR BREAKS THE PROJECT GOES. SO IF THERE'S ISSUES WITH THAT THAT ORGANIZATION IN PARTICULAR, I THINK IT WOULD FOR SURE BE WORTH LOOKING INTO OTHERS. AND IT IS BEST PRACTICE TO LIKE, YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU'VE STABILIZED WITH A SYSTEM LIKE THIS FOR A YEAR, TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS, HAVING ANOTHER PARTY COME IN AND LOOK TO SEE AND COMPARE HOW THEY SET THINGS UP AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW TO MAKE THINGS BETTER. SO IT'S GREAT TO HEAR THAT THAT'S IN SCOPE. SO I GUESS THE ONE PIECE I'M, I GUESS, WONDERING WHAT THE PATH FORWARD IS, IS SO THE TWO YEARS REMAINING CONTRACT IS MORE ON LIKE DAY TO DAY SUPPORT VERSUS LIKE CONFIGURATION OF THE SYSTEM. OR IS IT BOTH OR WE'RE WE'RE HOLDING OUR FEET TO THE FIRE ON CURRENT CONTRACTS WHERE WE WE'VE WRITTEN THE LAST ONE, ESPECIALLY IN A WAY THAT SAID, YOU DELIVER THIS, YOU KNOW, SO SO WE'VE TIED IT MORE TO TO THOSE KIND OF THINGS AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, 100% ON THEM. WHEREAS BEFORE, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE CLAIMING CITY SHARE SOME OF THE BLAME FOR THAT. AND YOU COULD MAKE THE ARGUMENT, YOU KNOW, I LOOK BACK AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE RFP, I HAD EXPLAINED TO ME, YOU CAN DO TWO THINGS. YOU DO, YOU KNOW, CHANGE ORDERS TO PAY FOR PROJECT DELAYS BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE STAFF THERE, OR YOU GET OR YOU PAY UP FRONT FOR BACKFILL STAFF TO GO THROUGH THE PROJECT WITH YOU. WHEN WE STARTED THE PROJECT AND THIS WAS ONE OF OUR INITIAL PROBLEMS, IS WE DIDN'T ADD THE STAFF BECAUSE AFTER TALKING WITH THE OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT, THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, IT'S ONLY HERE, YOU KNOW, EVERY OTHER WEEK OR SO. SO IT'S NOT SO MUCH OF A, A ISSUE. SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S DIFFICULT. YEAH. YEAH. NO I UNDERSTAND AND I, I MEAN EVEN ON THE PRIVATE SIDE LIKE THESE ARE HUGE PROJECT LIFTS FOR ANY ORGANIZATION THAT EVEN HAS LIKE A FULL TEAM, LIKE ANY COMPANY I'VE WORKED FOR, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY DEVOTED TO IT. SO HAVING TO TO SPREAD THAT WORKLOAD ACROSS PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, HAVE BUSY JOBS, I FOR SURE HAVE A LOT OF A LOT OF GRACE FOR I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD TO AND I DON'T WANT TO UNDERSELL TO, YOU KNOW, NEW SYSTEMS HAVE A LOT OF SYNERGIES AND AUTOMATION. AND, YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU KIND OF GET A LOT OF THE WRINKLES IRONED OUT AND SEE, LIKE THE FULL EFFICIENCIES THAT THEY CAN BRING, LIKE, I DON'T WANT TO UNDERSELL OR MAKE IT SEEM LIKE THERE AREN'T, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING TO IMPROVE THE EFFICIENCIES OF OUR CURRENT STAFFS, ROLES AND WHATNOT, TOO. SO AT SOME POINT, MAYBE IF THERE'S A A POINT WHERE WE CAN KIND OF COMPILE A LIST OF WHAT SOME OF THOSE THINGS MIGHT BE, TOO, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL. AND JUST YEAH, IT'S THERE'S ALWAYS A LITTLE BIT OF A STICKER SHOCK WITH THESE KINDS OF PROJECTS. BUT, BUT THE BACK END, ONCE THINGS ARE IRONED OUT, IS ALWAYS A MUCH BETTER PLACE THAN, THAN BEFORE. SO YEAH, I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAD ON THIS ITEM. ANYTHING ELSE? COLLEAGUES? ALL RIGHT. SOUNDS GOOD. WELL, I WILL CALL A VOTE THEN ON THIS ITEM. SO ALL IN 
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FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. THAT'LL BRING US TO ITEM NUMBER 
          [2. Approval of City Sponsorship contributions for ArtPrize 2026 in the amount of $100,000 through General Administration and $50,000 through Mobile GR Department, with additional in-kind services in the amount of $50,000]
TWO. I'M GOING TO TRY AND MOVE THROUGH THESE AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE, TIME PERMITTING. AT THE END THERE WAS AN ITEM THAT WE WERE HOPING TO GET TO AT OUR WORKSHOP MEETING BACK ON THE 13TH THAT IF WE CAN SQUEEZE IN, WOULD BE GREAT. SO MOVING FORWARD, ITEM NUMBER TWO, WE'VE GOT APPROVAL FOR CITY SPONSORSHIP CONTRIBUTIONS FOR ARTPRIZE 2026 AND THE AMOUNT OF 100,000 FOR GENERAL ADMISSION AND 50,000 FOR MOBILE GR DEPARTMENT, WITH ADDITIONAL IN-KIND SERVICES IN THE AMOUNT OF $50,000. SO SUPPORT. ALL RIGHT. MOVED AND SUPPORTED I BELIEVE MR. MATTHEWS I SAY I CAN SURE EITHER IF HE'S NOT UP TO THE MIC YET. THIS IS JUST OUR ANNUAL CONTRIBUTION TOWARDS TOWARDS OUR PRIZE. AND YEAH, MOBILE GR CONTRIBUTES AS WELL AS GENERAL ADMINISTRATION. DOUG, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD WHAT SHE SAID. AWESOME. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS COLLEAGUES HAVE A QUICK COMMENT. I'LL SAY I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF OUR PRIZE. WHEN THEY HAD THE PRESENTATION THEY SAID THAT IN THE UPCOMING YEAR, THEY WERE REALLY HOPEFUL TO EXTEND FURTHER INTO THE THIRD WARD. WE ONLY HAD ONE, I BELIEVE AT LINK UP THEY HAD A MURAL AND THAT WAS A BEAUTIFUL PARTNERSHIP. BUT I BELIEVE THEY'RE WORKING WITH SOUTHTOWN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE MORE VENUES IN THE THIRD WARD. SO I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS TODAY, AND I'M REALLY HOPING THAT THIS SUPPORT ALSO ALLOWS FOR MORE THE EXPERIENCE OF ARTPRIZE TO COME INTO THE THIRD WARD EVEN MORE THIS UPCOMING YEAR. YEP. YEAH. 
          THANKS FOR THAT COMMENT. I KNOW THAT'S LONG BEEN THE INTENTION IS, YOU KNOW, OVER TIME GETTING PEOPLE FURTHER OUT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS. DOWNTOWN'S GREAT, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE SEE ALL, ALL CORNERS OF THE CITY, THAT'S FOR SURE. SO ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT BEING SAID, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES AND COMMISSIONERS APOLOGIZE FOR THE DISTRACTION. SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE NOTED THAT WE'VE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH ACCESS TO THE AGENDA MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THIS MORNING. THERE'S AN ISSUE, A GLOBAL ISSUE WITH CLOUDFLARE RIGHT NOW. IT'S PRETTY WIDESPREAD. THEY HAVE INDICATED THAT THEY'VE IDENTIFIED AN ISSUE. THEY'RE WORKING ON A FIX FOR THE ISSUE. BUT IN THE INTERIM, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A COPY OF THE AGENDA THAT'S POSTED WITH A BANNER AT THE TOP OF THE WEBSITE UNTIL THAT'S RESOLVED. BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IN THE BACKGROUND. APPRECIATE IT. IT WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS WITH MY COWORKERS ABOUT THREE 
          [3. Resolution authorizing an agreement with the Grand Rapids Urban League in an amount not to exceed $750,000 to continue to serve as the lead agency for Cure Violence Grand Rapids]
MINUTES AGO. SO AWESOME. ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER THREE, WE'VE GOT A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AN AGREEMENT WITH THE GRAND RAPIDS URBAN LEAGUE IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $750,000, TO CONTINUE SERVICE AS THE LEAD AGENCY FOR OUR CURE VIOLENCE GRAND RAPIDS PROGRAM. IS THERE A MOTION? SO MOVED. SUPPORT MOVED IN SUPPORT. WE HAVE MR. DAVIS HERE TO TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS ONE. GOOD MORNING. THIS IS ANOTHER CASE WHERE THE TITLE EXPLAINS THE ITEM. I'M HERE FOR QUESTIONS. IF THERE ARE ANY GREAT ANY QUESTIONS? THOUGHTS? YEAH. I HAVE A THOUGHT. I, WE HAD A LOT OF CONCERNED NEIGHBORS ABOUT FOUR INSTANCES OF VIOLENCE IN THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE CITY RECENTLY. AND I THINK THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF US REALLY BEING INTENTIONAL AND SUPPORTING EFFORTS TO REALLY CURB VIOLENCE AND BE, YOU KNOW, BOOTS ON THE GROUND IN TERMS OF HELPING US COMBAT THIS. SO VERY HAPPY TO SUPPORT IT AND HOPING THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO SEE SOME INNOVATION ON HOW WE CAN HELP NEIGHBORS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN. YEAH. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. SO THE 750,000, IS THAT ALL SPECIFICALLY FOR THE LEAGUE OR IS IT BROKEN OUT INTO OTHER PIECES OR. THIS IS ALL FOR THAT. THAT WORK. YEP. THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE OUR CONTRACT WITH THE GRAND RAPIDS URBAN LEAGUE. SO THE WAY WE PAY CURE FOR CURE VIOLENCE IN GRAND RAPIDS IS SPLIT INTO TWO CONTRACTS. THERE IS A CONTRACT WITH CURE VIOLENCE GLOBAL. AND THAT IS THE AGENCY THAT CREATED CURE VIOLENCE AND PROVIDES TRAINING AND TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AND THE LICENSING TO DO IT TO THE URBAN LEAGUE. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO OUR CONTRACT WITH THE URBAN LEAGUE DIRECTLY TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE. THIS CONTRACT IS THE CONTRACT WITH THE URBAN LEAGUE DIRECTLY TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE. I SHOULD ALSO ADD THAT THERE WILL BE AN ANNUAL REPORT GIVEN DURING THE PUBLIC SAFETY MEETING TODAY, WHICH WILL SPEAK TO WHAT THE LEAGUE HAS BEEN DOING OVER THE LAST YEAR. THANK YOU. GREAT. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. HEARING NO 
          [4. Resolution authorizing early payoff in the amount of $174,784 and release of a charitable gift agreement with the Secchia Foundation]
OTHER QUESTIONS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED. THE MOTION CARRIES. 
          THANK YOU. THANKS. ITEM NUMBER FOUR. I SEE MISS CLAYPOOL COMING UP TO THE MIC HERE. 
          WE'VE GOT A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING EARLY PAYOFF IN THE AMOUNT OF $174,784 AND RELEASE OF A CHARITABLE GIFT AGREEMENT WITH THE CDC FOUNDATION. SO MOVE SUPPORT. ALL RIGHT. MOVED AND SUPPORTED. GOOD MORNING, LAURA CLAYPOOL WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. THIS RESOLUTION AUTHORIZES THE CITY TO HAVE AN EARLY PAYOUT FOR A DONATION, WHICH CAME FROM THE IKEA FOUNDATION FOR $300,000, WHICH WAS TO BE PAID OUT OVER 20 YEARS. THAT FOUNDATION IS 
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SUNSETTING IN THE END OF 2025. AND SO THIS IS JUST THE CITY RECOGNIZING THE 60,000 THAT'S BEEN RECEIVED AND ACCEPTING A 4% PRESENT VALUE OF THAT DONATION. AND THE CONTRIBUTION WILL JUST CONTINUE TO ENHANCE THE DEPARTMENT'S MISSION ON COLLABORATIVE STEWARDSHIP OF OUR. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS, COLLEAGUES. ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES. THIS WILL BRING 
          [5. Resolution authorizing execution of a contract with National Research Center, Inc. in an amount not to exceed $30,000 for development, execution and analysis of a community survey (The National Community Survey)]
US TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE. WE'VE GOT A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF A CONTRACT WITH NATIONAL RESEARCH CENTER INCORPORATED IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 30,000 FOR DEVELOPMENT, EXECUTION AND ANALYSIS OF A COMMUNITY SURVEY, WHICH IS THE THE NATIONAL COMMUNITY SURVEY SUPPORT. ALL RIGHT. MOVED AND SUPPORTED MISTER GREEN, WELCOME. GOOD MORNING. SO THIS IS OUR BIANNUAL COMMUNITY SURVEY, THE NATIONAL COMMUNITY SURVEY THAT WE'VE RUN FOR THREE ITERATIONS SO FAR. THE LAST ONE WAS IN 2024. SO THIS WOULD AUTHORIZE US TO ENTER INTO THE CONTRACT AND LAUNCH THE SURVEY RIGHT NOW, TENTATIVELY IN THE SPRING OF 2026. OKAY. THANKS. IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS SINCE THE LAST ONE. YEAH. YEAH, IT YEAH, WE DO THE SURVEY AND THEN IT TAKES ABOUT 4 TO 6 MONTHS TO TO DO ALL THE ANALYSIS. SO YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION TO WORK WITH FOR ABOUT A YEAR. YEP. OKAY. SO IF WE LAUNCH YOU SAID THIS EARLY THIS COMING CALENDAR YEAR, WHEN DO WE ANTICIPATE THE RESULTS WILL BE BACK TO COMPARE? USUALLY IF WE DO IT IN THE SPRING WE'LL GET THEM LATE SUMMER. WE'LL HAVE RESULTS BY LATE SUMMER. OKAY. AWESOME COLLEAGUES. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? ALL RIGHTY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES. 
          [6. Resolution accepting a $300,000 Trust Fund Grant Award from Michigan Department of Natural Resources for improvements at Bike Park]
THAT'LL BRING US TO ITEM NUMBER SIX. WE'VE GOT A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING A $300,000 TRUST FUND GRANT AWARD FROM MICHIGAN DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES FOR IMPROVEMENTS AT BIKE PARK SUPPORT MOVED AND SUPPORTED. HELLO AGAIN. LAURA CLAYPOOL. STILL WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. 
          THIS RESOLUTION AUTHORIZES THE ACCEPTANCE OF A GRANT FROM THE MICHIGAN DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES AND EXECUTION OF A TRUST FUND DEVELOPMENT PROJECT AGREEMENT TO SUPPORT ENHANCEMENTS AT BIKE PARK. THE PROJECT INCLUDES UPGRADES FOR AN EXISTING PARKING LOT, NEW CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW SHELTER PATIO AREA, AND ADDITIONAL MOUNTAIN BIKE AND OTHER AMENITIES. THESE IMPROVEMENTS ALIGN WITH THE 2022 MASTER PLAN AND WERE APPROVED BY THE PARK ADVISORY BOARD. THE TOTAL PROJECT COST IS $605,000, AND THE PARKS CAPITAL FUND WILL HAVE A 50% MATCHING CONTRIBUTION OF 305,000. GREAT. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION, COLLEAGUES? ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED. THE 
          [7. Ordinance amending Sections 4.2 and 4.3 of Ordinance 2025-22, New Classifications - Intelligent Transportation Systems Technician and Fire Hazard Inspector II and Range Changes for Mechanical Inspector I, Mechanical Inspector II, and Fire Hazard Inspector I]
MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. THANKS. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. WE'VE GOT AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTIONS 4.2 AND 4.3 OF ORDINANCE 2025. DASH 22, NEW CLASSIFICATIONS FOR INTELLIGENT TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS TECHNICIAN AND FIRE HAZARD INSPECTOR TWO, AND RANGE CHANGES FOR MECHANICAL INSPECTOR ONE, MECHANICAL INSPECTOR TWO AND FIRE HAZARD INSPECTOR ONE. SO MOVED. SUPPORT. ALL RIGHT. MOVED AND SUPPORTED. GOOD MORNING. 
          WELCOME, BARBIE, INTERIM HR LEADER. THE MOBILE GR DEPARTMENT IS REQUESTING A NEW CLASSIFICATION. INTELLIGENT TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS TECHNICIAN. THE POSITION, PREVIOUSLY KNOWN AS THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS TECH, HAS BECOME OUTDATED. THE CURRENT JOB DESCRIPTION DOES NOT REFLECT CURRENT TECHNOLOGY OR MODERN PRACTICES. THE POSITION IS BEING PLACED IN THE 25 A SALARY RANGE, FIRE HAZARD INSPECTOR ONE AND FIRE HAZARD INSPECTOR TWO. THE BUILDING INSPECTIONS DEPARTMENT IS REQUESTING A RECLASSIFICATION OF THE FIRE HAZARD INSPECTOR ONE POSITION AND THE CREATION OF A NEW POSITION. FIRE HAZARD INSPECTOR TWO. THE PRIMARY DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE FIRE HAZARD INSPECTOR ONE AND FIRE HAZARD INSPECTOR TWO ROLE IS THE INCREASED RESPONSIBILITY OF THE FIRE HAZARD INSPECTOR TWO WITH ADVANCED CODE EXPERTISE, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REVIEW CAPABILITIES AND CRITICAL SPECIAL EVENT COORDINATION. MECHANICAL INSPECTOR ONE AND MECHANICAL INSPECTOR TWO BOTH HAVE UPDATED RANGES. THE BUILDING INSPECTIONS DEPARTMENT IS ALSO REQUESTING A RECLASSIFICATION OF TWO MECHANICAL INSPECTOR POSITIONS, THE MECHANICAL INSPECTOR ONE AND TWO POSITIONS CURRENTLY PERFORM COMPREHENSIVE INSPECTIONS. THE ADJUSTMENT IS ESSENTIAL TO ENSURE THAT JOB RESPONSIBILITIES REQUIRED. EXPERTISE AND COMPENSATION FOR THESE VITAL ROLES ARE ALIGNED WITH INDUSTRY STANDARDS AND THE INCREASING COMPLEXITY OF MECHANICAL SYSTEMS AND CODES. THESE CLASSIFICATIONS AND SALARY RANGES WERE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE CIVIL SERVICE BOARD ON OCTOBER 21ST. AT THIS TIME, WE ARE REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL. GREAT, THANKS. ANY QUESTIONS, COLLEAGUES? COMMENTS? JUST ONE QUICK ONE. SO THE 
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INTELLIGENT TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS TECHNICIAN ROLE, DID YOU SAY THAT'S AN INCREASE IN COMPENSATION RANGE OR IT'S JUST TRULY A RENAMING OF THE EXISTING ROLE? WELL, IT IS A NEW ROLE. SO IT WILL BE PLACED IN 25 A OKAY OKAY. YEAH. GOT IT. OKAY I'M UNDERSTANDING. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES OKAY 
          [8. Ordinance amending Section 1 of the Budget Ordinance 2025-11 for Fiscal Year 2026 (Amendment No. 4)]
THEN. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, WE'VE GOT AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION ONE OF THE BUDGET ORDINANCE 2025 DASH 11 FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026. AND THIS IS AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR. SO MOVED. 
          SUPPORT. ALL RIGHT. MOVED AND SUPPORTED MISS CLAIRE. GOOD MORNING. COMMISSIONERS. THE BUDGET AMENDMENT TODAY IS A STORY OF APPROPRIATING A LOT OF GRANTS. SO OUR FIRST ONE OUT OF THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, RECONSTRUCTION OF BUTTERWORTH STREET FROM WEST CITY LIMITS TO O'BRIEN ROAD. THIS IS AN EPA GRANT FOR 595,000 BEING APPROPRIATED IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND. NUMBER TWO, THIS IS THE WATER MAIN EXTENSION IN IRENE AVENUE TO LINDA AVENUE. THIS IS A STATE OF MICHIGAN GRANT, $2.1 MILLION BEING APPROPRIATED IN THE WATER IMPROVEMENT FUND. NUMBER THREE, IMPROVEMENTS TO THE GRAND RIVER EAST RIVERFRONT. PHASE ONE US 31 TO CSX RAILROAD. THIS IS AN EDC GRANT BEING APPROPRIATED. 963,000. THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND NUMBER FOUR IS THE DRUG SOBRIETY COURT GRANT. THIS IS 150,000 APPROPRIATING FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO THE 61ST DISTRICT GRANTS FUND, WITH NO EFFECT ON GENERAL FUND FUND BALANCE, AND ALSO AN INCREASE OF 309,000 IN REVENUE. APPROPRIATIONS TO OF THE 61ST DISTRICT COURT GRANTS FUND, WITH NO EFFECT ON FUND BALANCE. NUMBER FIVE, THIS IS THE AUTO AUTO THEFT PREVENTION AUTHORITY GRANT 320,000. IN THE GENERAL OPERATING FUND BUDGET, WITH ALSO AN APPROPRIATION OF AN INCREASE OF 735,000 IN REVENUE. APPROPRIATIONS AND THE POLICE GRANTS FUND NUMBER SIX, CONTINUATION OF THE OFFICE OF HIGHWAY SAFETY PLANNING GRANT AWARD. THIS IS FOR 18,000, JUST OVER $18,000 AND THE POLICE GRANTS FUND AND NUMBER SEVEN IS 61ST DISTRICT COURT SOBRIETY COURT EXPANSION PROGRAM 180,000. IN THE 61ST DISTRICT COURTS GRANTS FUND, CONTINGENT BALANCE REMAINS UNCHANGED AT 1.5 MILLION. OKAY. THANKS. ANY DISCUSSION ON ANY OF THOSE ITEMS, COLLEAGUES? ALL RIGHTY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. 
          [9. Bid List Resolution for November 18, 2025]
THOSE OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES BRINGING US TO ITEM NUMBER NINE, WHICH IS OUR BID LIST RESOLUTION FOR TODAY, NOVEMBER 18TH, 2025. SO MOVED SUPPORT. ALL RIGHT. MOVED AND SUPPORTED. THE ITEMS ON HERE ARE ARE FAIRLY ROUTINE. IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS MYSELF OR THE DEPARTMENTS ARE HERE TO ANSWER THEM OKAY. THANKS. AND I KNOW THAT'S ON PAGE 43 OF OUR PACKET THIS WEEK IN CASE PEOPLE WANT TO LOOK INTO THOSE. THAT SAID, ANY DISCUSSION COMMENTS. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES. ITEM NUMBER TEN. WE'VE 
          [10. Comptroller's Warrant Report for the period of October 7, 2025 through November 3, 2025 in the amount of $98,685,247.89 and Monthly Travel Report]
GOT OUR CONTROLLERS WARRANT REPORT FOR THE PERIOD OF OCTOBER 7TH, 2025 THROUGH NOVEMBER 3RD, 2025. THE AMOUNT OF $98,685,247.89 AND OUR MONTHLY TRAVEL REPORT. AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MR. MAX FRANCE. GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. MORNING. FOR THE PERIOD REFERENCE, THEIR CASH PAYMENTS WERE RELEASED TOTALING APPROXIMATELY $98.7 MILLION. 
          THAT AMOUNT INCLUDES $11.7 MILLION FOR EMPLOYEE PAYROLL EXPENSES AND JUST OVER $447,000 FOR INCOME TAX WARRANTS. IN TERMS OF QUANTITY, 321 INCOME TAX REFUNDS WERE ISSUED AND 2986 CHECKS AND ELECTRONIC PAYMENTS WERE ISSUED. AS STATED IN THE MEMO, THESE FUNDS WERE ISSUED FOR PAYMENT BY INDIVIDUALS NOT IN THE CITY CONTROLLER'S OFFICE AND NOT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TERMS OF THE CITY CHARTER. ALSO IN OUR REPORT HERE THIS MORNING, WE HAVE THE SEPTEMBER FISCAL YEAR TO DATE TRAVEL REPORT, WHICH DETAILS TRAVEL EXPENSES BY DEPARTMENT, AND THAT REPORT IS SHOWING SO FAR THAT WE'VE SPENT APPROXIMATELY HALF $1 MILLION ON A TOTAL ANNUAL BUDGET OF $2.3 MILLION, OR ABOUT 22%. AND THAT CONCLUDES THE REPORTS THAT I HAVE THIS MORNING. THANK YOU. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND RECEIVE AND FILE THAT ITEM NUMBER 11. THEN 
          [11. Treasurer’s Report for Period of October 8, 2025, through November 4, 2025]
BRINGS US TO OUR TREASURER'S REPORT FOR PERIOD OF OCTOBER 8TH, 2025 THROUGH NOVEMBER 4TH, 2025. AND I'LL KICK IT OVER TO OUR CITY TREASURER. GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS, WITH OUR REPORT TODAY. I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE DID HAVE A 4.25% REDUCTION IN OUR INTEREST RATES. THAT WAS BACK IN OCTOBER 29TH. A COUPLE OF THINGS TO POINT OUT THAT THAT DECISION WAS NOT UNANIMOUS. WE HAD SOMEBODY WHO WANTED TO KEEP RATES THE SAME AND SOMEBODY ELSE WHO WANTED TO DROP IT HALF A PERCENTAGE POINT. SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFERENCE 
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THERE. AS OF THIS MORNING, THOUGH, DIFFERENT CHANGES AS THE ECONOMY HAS STARTED BACK UP. 
          FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS BACK OPEN. THINGS ARE CHANGING VERY, VERY QUICKLY. THAT BEING SAID, WE WERE PROJECTING POTENTIALLY ANYWHERE FROM AN 80 TO 90% REDUCTION COMING UP IN DECEMBER THAT NOW HAS DROPPED BELOW 50%. WE'RE NOT EXPECTING ONE AT ALL NOW THE REST OF THE YEAR, GOING INTO NEXT YEAR, THE ISSUE AGAIN IS GOING TO BE THIS. THE FED HAS A DUAL MANDATE. ONE IS FULL EMPLOYMENT. THE SECOND IS TO CONTROL INFLATION. THEY HAVE ONE TOOL TO DO IT AND THAT'S INTEREST RATES. YOU CAN'T ADJUST ONE AND EXPECT BOTH TO RESPOND POSITIVELY. THEY WORK IN OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS. AND SO THAT'S THE CHALLENGE WE HAVE RIGHT NOW AT THE FED. SO I, I AM CERTAINLY OF THE BELIEF THAT THEY'RE GOING TO STAY VERY CAUTIOUS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO BE THE IMPETUS TO OVERTURN SOMETHING AND OVERHEAT THE MARKET OR SHRINK IT SO QUICKLY THAT IT'S REALLY MORE DISASTROUS, I WOULD SAY, BECAUSE IT IT'S A TIGHTROPE THAT THEY'RE WALKING RIGHT NOW AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE VERY, VERY, VERY CONSERVATIVE. WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THE NEXT SERIES OF ECONOMIC DATA TO BE RELEASED RIGHT NOW. AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT'S GOING TO COME. AND WE JUST DON'T WE DON'T BELIEVE THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE UP FOR LOST TIME EITHER. SO I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, OH, HERE'S YOUR NUMBERS FOR SEPTEMBER, HERE'S YOUR NUMBERS FOR OCTOBER. AND NOW HERE'S NOVEMBER DATA. I THINK WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO IS PROBABLY JUST LEAPFROG AND GO, HERE'S THE NEW NUMBERS NOW. SO T OF CONCERN TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING PRESSURES IN EMPLOYMENT. 
          WE'RE SEEING WE'RE HEARING JOB LOSSES BEING ANNOUNCED. WE'RE HEARING AND FEELING THE PRESSURE OF A SNAP PROGRAM GOING AWAY. WE'RE HEARING $10 BEEF COMING UP. YOU KNOW, WE'RE HEARING THESE THINGS IN IN THE NEWS. AND I CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE CONSUMERS ARE GOING TO BE VERY ANXIOUS RIGHT NOW. AND WE'RE APPROACHING WHAT THANKSGIVING AND CHRISTMAS, YOUR TURKEY AND HAM ARE GOING UP. I HATE TO SAY IT, BUT THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WILL HIT OUR POCKETBOOKS THAT WE'RE REALLY GOING TO BE FOCUSED ON OUR OUR VOTERS AND OUR ACTUALLY LOOK AT THEIR POCKETBOOK. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PAST AN ELECTION. BUT AGAIN, WHAT'S WHAT'S COMING NEXT FOR THEM? WITH OUR PORTFOLIO, THOUGH, WE ARE SITTING AT 740 MILLION. 
          WE'RE WELL FUNDED. WE'RE SITTING AT EARNINGS OVER 3.45%. I THINK WE'RE VERY WELL POSITIONED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE TO ANY HICCUPS THAT MIGHT COME IN THE MARKET. WE DO HAVE A LOT OF DOLLARS THAT ARE HELD NEAR TERM, THAT ARE GOING TO MATURE WITHIN A YEAR, THAT WE CAN BE FLEXIBLE AND MOVE. SO IF THERE'S ANY OTHER BLIPS, ANY OTHER HICCUPS, WE TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS WITH FED GRANTS, STATE GRANTS, MONEY THAT'S COMING OUT FROM THESE VARIOUS AGENCIES. WE'RE WE'RE POSITIONED TO BE PREPARED, SHOULD THERE BE AN INTERRUPTION IN THOSE FUNDS TO HELP AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. THAT'S WHY WE'RE OVERLOADED WITH OUR MATURITIES IN THE NEXT 12 TO 18 MONTHS, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COMMITTED TO BE THERE, TO HELP WITH CITY OPERATIONS AND MAKE SURE THE MONEY IS THERE. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT ONE THING TO MISS CLARENCE PRESENTATION ON ORACLE. WE WE REALLY RAN INTO SOME PERFECT STORMS. HAD HAD THE HAD THIS LAUNCHED WHEN IT WAS GOING TO LAUNCH, WE WOULDN'T PROBABLY NOT HAVE RUN INTO THE MACATAWA BANK. WINTRUST MERGER AND CONVERSION. OUR BANKING PARTNERS HAVE BEEN WITH US AND WALKING IN LOCKSTEP TO MAKE SURE THEY CAN HELP ALLEVIATE THAT. BUT AGAIN, THEY'RE THEY'RE A BUSINESS THEMSELVES WHEN THEY GO THROUGH A MERGER. AND IT JUST HAPPENS TO COINCIDE WITH US IMPLEMENTING ORACLE, THAT SOMETIMES CAN LEAD TO SOME HICCUPS. BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT THEY HAVE BEEN WALKING WITH US THROUGH EVERY STEP OF THE WAY TO TRY TO MAKE THIS WORK AS BEST THEY POSSIBLY CAN. I CAN TELL YOU THAT ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS RIGHT NOW IS OUR STAFFS ARE VERY OVERWORKED. WE HAD PEOPLE WORKING ALL WEEKEND TRYING TO BALANCE THINGS OUT, MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS WORKING SMOOTHLY. WE WILL CAPTURE EFFICIENCIES. WE ARE STARTING TO SEE WHAT THOSE EFFICIENCIES ARE GOING TO BE. BUT AGAIN, I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT THE STAFF THAT ARE PUTTING IN THESE MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE DAYS AND HOURS OF EXTRA TIME. WE WILL GET THERE LIKE YOU, LIKE YOU SAID, COMMISSIONER ROBBINS, A LOT OF TIMES IT'S WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION TEAM. IT'S NOT THE ORACLE SOLUTION. 
          IT'S A FANTASTIC SOLUTION. WE'VE ALL HAD OUR OUR THOUGHTS AND FEELINGS ABOUT HOW THE PROJECT HAS MOVED THROUGH. BUT AGAIN, WE ARE WE ARE DOING THE ABSOLUTE BEST WE CAN TO BRING 
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FORWARD THE BEST POSSIBLE PRODUCT THAT IS GOING TO BE WITH US. FOR, I'M HOPING, DECADES. KIND OF LIKE THE WAY WE HAD FAMOUS ON THE OLD IBM SYSTEM THAT RAN WITH US FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME THING WITH ORACLE. YEAH, THANKS FOR THAT. AND I PLEASE GIVE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE STAFF WHO HAVE HAD HANDS ON THIS PROJECT FROM START TO FINISH. OUR BEST REGARDS. I KNOW THERE WAS MANY 4 A.M. MORNINGS ON MY OWN PROJECTS THAT I'VE HAD TO WORK ON, AND IT'S IT'S REALLY TOUGH, TEDIOUS WORK WITH A LOT OF STRESS. SO I DON'T WANT TO DISCOUNT THAT BY ANY MEANS AND APPRECIATE THE THE APPRECIATION THERE TOO. SO I'LL TURN TO MY COLLEAGUES AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS TO THAT POINT OR ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE REPORT. ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND RECEIVE AND FILE 
          [12. Follow-Up on Financial Update from November 13, 2025 City Commission Workshop]
THAT. WHICH BRINGS US. WE'VE GOT FOUR MINUTES LEFT, MISS CLARENCE. I WILL I WILL LEAVE IT UP TO YOU. WELL YEAH. THAT'S. YEAH, THAT THAT'S KIND OF A MOUTHFUL TO GET THROUGH IN FOUR MINUTES. SO I WILL DISCUSS WITH CITY MANAGER WHAT, WHAT OUR NEXT OPTION IS BECAUSE I KNOW COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT HAS TO COME IN HERE AND DO DO ALL THEIR BUSINESS. SO SO WE'LL WE'LL FOLLOW UP AND LET YOU KNOW EITHER A PRESENTATION AT ANOTHER TIME OR A FOLLOW UP WITH A MEMO OR SOMETHING. OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TABLE THAT ITEM MAYBE TO ONE OF OUR NEXT UPCOMING MEETINGS HERE. WITH THAT SAID, THAT WRAPS UP OUR WRAPS UP OUR SCHEDULED BUSINESS.
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